Is Ortiz the most complete HW now ?

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  1. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's got almost everything : skillset, power, mobility, chin, stamina, cojones.
    I think he is the only HW capable to upset Joshua. What do you think ?
     
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  2. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Once Odlanier Solis gets into shape. He will beat his evil cuban counterpart. Bank on it.
     
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  3. Jean-Yiss

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    I would favor him to beat Joshua and wildswing by KO
     
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  4. check-jab

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    Very true. Am i right in thinking he is still lineal Champ anyway, he only vacated WBA and WBO. Still holding that RING belt with pride. The Gypsy King will be back.
     
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  5. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously, evidently, surely, etc, etc...Ortiz has better chin, power and heart (cojones) than Fury. Nobody can convince me the opposite. I have to repeat : chin, power, heart...........
     
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  6. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Even though Fury is on sabbatical and relinquished his titles, he should still be regarded as 'the man' and the lineal champ until he is defeated ... just as Ali was when he was in exile.
     
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  7. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have a bit of respect for Fury, but you exaggerate. He's got only one worthy scalp - Wlad.
     
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  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Sorry, you can't question Fury's heart. His chin (but when has he been stopped, remind me again?) and power, yes but when his mind is right, there's no bigger heart in the HW scene than Tyson's. He went into Wlad's own backyard and took home the titles, something that no one else managed to do in more than a decade. You don't achieve that by being a shrinking violet...
     
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  9. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Power - excuse me, a blind one could see this. Chin - the same. Cojones - no need to discuss.......
     
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  10. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    furys on record saying aviod the Cuban beast at all costs no one wants any of that
     
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  11. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    As opposed to King Kong Ortiz, whose one 'worthy' scalp is Bryant Jennings.

    It doesn't matter if Wlad is the only big name on Fury's ledger; it doesn't alter the fact that Fury is the man who beat the man. Ergo, lineal champ. :thumbsup:
     
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  12. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When / If .... NO NAME Pajkić dropped him, Cunningham too (imagine GGG dropped by Lomachenko, or Ward dropped by Crawford) TF was heavier more than 20 kg (44 lb) then his opponents. Ortiz is capable to destroy him, literally. Joshua, too..
     
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  13. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thompson ? Multiple contender, almost killed Price...Ortiz destroyed him and Jennings (recent contender, too).
    Fury had run 12 rounds against old Wlad, without a landing only one proper punch....I am not a hater, I dislike his trash talking, but nobody is perfect....
     
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  14. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    As I recalled also, never been stopped...
     
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  15. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Just another steroid user , hope he will get exposed soon.
     
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