Why Hatton is not worthy of your support

Hatton fights are exiciting to watch. He got knocked out by Mayweather but in the process it is one of Mayweather's more enjoyable fights. Hatton is not a perfect fighter but he guarantees a show. Everything else is besides the point.

 

Ricky was hurt and they stop the fight to tie his shoe, suddenly?

Something smells

 

I agree with you Fallow except for 1 point. NOBODY is greedier than Oscar!!!

 

Clearly you didn't watch the fight.

There was already a break in the action when his shoelace was seen to be untied.

 

**** me sideways. This place is becoming a Neurotics' Convention.

Oh yeah, thanks to the OP for looking out for us. That is, us, who cannot make choices for ourselves without education and reason. Us, who must bow to decisions made by those with superior intellect. Us, who are not haters.

 

yep, thats the reason i dont like hatton.

and i dont like that "im just one of the fellas" antics he does all the time. that is so cheesy.

 

This thread is why the boxing section of ESB is read with a smidgen of disdain by the real purists.

 

I just love the 'purist like me' quote. That one is special.

Probably been watching UFC and WWF all weekend?

The real gripe I have about Hatton haters (apart from their kinked obsession with him) is how they try to make anyone who remotely likes him look stupid, ignorant and unknowledgable. It's this arrogance that turns people against them (the haters).

Lads, if it was just a case of 'I don't like the **** because........', I am sure more would respect (though not necessarily agree with) your views.....but it's the 'because I am a purist', 'pulling the wool over their eyes', 'not a true boxing fans' fighter', 'they just don't get it', etc. These derogatory remarks are, to be frank, arrogant and are uncalled for. I hope, in some way, you agree.

 

I'd forgotten the many years that Hatton was WBU Champ and fought more nobidies than Calzughi.

 

Let me qualify my response by saying that I'm a Hatton fan. I do not think he is the greatest fighter ever to have set foot into the ring, I can think of a number of fighters today that would be capable of retiring him. But I think you've been a little unfair to him.

1. As to his greed, on a personal level I don't think you can claim Hatton to be greedy. One needs only to look at his lifestyle to see that he's actually a rather humble person who has not forgotten where he came from. I think his parents are very much responsible for that. Perhaps on a professional level he is greedy but that's a trait inherent in many professional athletes, especially those at the top of their game. Hatton knows he commands the audience, the viewing figures and the box office draw, any competent business person would play on that and to base a criticism on this seems a bit off.

2. Yes, he has been risk adverse. I would say that 99% of the fighters today are and so they should be. Until you get to the top you need to make sure your opponents are right for you, that you have what's needed to beat them. You have to do this to succeed in today's boxing world. Everyone would love to see Floyd and Cotto. Will it happen? Maybe but there's a good reason that it hasn't. Managers and boxers are protecting their interests. Once you get to Hopkin's or DLH's age and experience you can fight whomever you want, it doesn't really matter anymore.

And that's what Hatton is doing right now. He didn't need to take on Floyd, to many is was a stupid move. But he did, he laid his legacy on the line. He could have remained undefeated, cosy at his preferred weight. He also took a risk with this comeback fight. There were many opponents that might have presented an easier challenge, that he could have knocked down, he took on a fight that was more dangerous than needed.

Has he ducked opponents in the past? Hell yes. Hasn't every boxer?

3. Tszyu: Was he at his best when he fought Hatton? I don't think anyone would say he was. But he took the fight and Hatton felt he could win it. Let's not forget that many thought Hatton would lose. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but at the time Tszyu was seen as a real challenge. I bet if we look back at the boards here there are many who bet against Hatton. Of course once he wins it's easy to say he was washed up.

4. Manchester City. Now it seems to me that you have something personal against Hatton because using this as a reason to dislike him is inane. "Leveraged the name of Man City FC"? He's a fan. His dad played for them. So he talks to Rooney? So what? The guys a Liverpudlian, not a Manc from the other side of Renul street. Beckham? He's a superstar, why should Hatton not be allowed to be friends? Just because Beckham once played for Man U? That's ridiculous. It's like saying a US boxer should not be friends with a basketball player from another state. If anything Hatton has done wonders for the relations between Man U and Man City fans. He's shown that you don't have to kill each other, that sport is sport and it should stay on the pitch, not go to the pubs and streets with people fighting each other because one team scored more goals than another. I could go on about this point but it's so silly that it's not worth any further comment.

5. Witter. Why should Hatton have fought Witter? The British public were not interested, not until recently. Otherwise the fight would have been made. There was not enough money in it and more importantly, there was no money to be made in the US. It was a nothing fight for Hatton, everything to lose, absolutely nothing to gain. the fact that Hatton get a shot at Floyd was evidence that the tactic was the correct one. He didn't need Witter, Witter needed him. Also let's not forget what happened to Witter a few weeks ago.

6. There are very few fighter's fighters. I love them too. I think Cotto is one. But we have to accept that they are few and far between. As much as I love Marciano, you could level the same accusation at him. You could say the same about most fighters today. It seems strange that you would want to pick out Hatton for this purpose. Why not any number of other fighters?

The fact is Hatton is a people's champ. People love him he's the only boxer in the world that could fill a 100,000 stadium. He's actually doing wonders for boxing because he's bringing it to the masses. Let's also give the guy some credit.

 

Great post.

:good

Far more objective than the original 'reasons why Hatton is not worthy of your support' argument. That said, objectivity doesn't come very high on a hater's list of priorities.

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I like Hatton, and watch him when I can. He's not my favourite fighter by a stretch, but he does what he does well, gives his all & appeals to the people. He also conducts himself with class inside & outside the ring. I honestly don't see why so many people hate on the man.

:huh

 

We can its just that you cant seem to accept that every single boxer is or would be the same given the chance.Hatton has earned the right to do this by racking up a long unbeaten record in an exciting manner.People have took to him because of his personality.If this type of thing upsets you then you shouldnt be watching boxing.Get a life and get out of mine you sad jealous individuals.

 

The problem with the early part of his career was Frank Warren. it was him who didn't want hatton to take the big risks because he didn't believe Hatton could win those fights. He was the one who had Witter and Hatton under contract when they both wanted the fight, yet didn't make it happen. Hatton was calling out the big names and Warren ddn't make it happen. It was only until Hatton threatened to leave him, Warren made a big fight.

A simple question. Since leaving Warren, has Hatton fought a much higher class of opponent?

Bull****. It's revionist thinking that Hatton took the fight because Tszyu was past his best. he was favoured heavily by The Ring magazine, the British media, any other respectable media outlet and the bookmakers. Hatton was not supposed to stand a chance against Tszyu, who, at the time, was considered one of the greatest light welterweights of all-time and P4P #3.

And let me remind you of the earlier point you made...

The reason the fight took place in Manchester wasn't so Hatton had a better chance of winning, it was because the fight made financial success for it to happen there. Look at the terrible numbers Tszyu had recieved in America. There was no interest in a fight over there.

People considered it an easy fight to Tszyu. He'd come over to england, beat the bgigest draw, make a massive amount of money for an easy nights work. Again, it's revisionist thinking.

Nonsense. Hatton is friends with both Rooney and Beckham. It's got nothing to do with anything.

The British public wanted to see it? No they ddin't. The hardcore fans did but don't talk **** and say the public did. Look at Witter's appalling drawing record. The British public wouldn't give two shits about Junior Witter.

I agree that Hatton isn't an aesthetically pleasing fighter, but that comparison is ridiculous. Have you ever seen Dempsey fight outside of the Willard bout? A real ****ing entertainer there.

No, it's not. It's the biased ramblings of a hater.

 

And yet again, you fail to mention that Hatton offered Witter his biggest payday. And Witter turned it down.