I'm not convinced the winner of DeGale v Jack will face Callum Smith

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  1. Bad News Brit

    Bad News Brit Active Member banned Full Member

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    Here is why, they have spent so long putting this fight together that while the winner has 90 days to make a fight with Smith, in January the mandatory for the IBF- Jose Uzcategui- is also called to which they have 90 days to fight him.

    DeGale, Jack and Uzcategui are all Haymon advised fighters. And Uzcategui is an easier fight than Smith. If Badou Jack wins then he will probably go the Uzcategui route and drop the WBC leaving Smith to fight for a vacant belt.

    If DeGale wins, it would be more likely being they could Box Office the **** out of it, but with Frank Warren and BT Sport now offering an alternative to Matchroom and Sky Sports- and likely with Haymon advising that route- DeGale may also choose to go for the IBF.

    It may not all be bad though because Smith could end up fighting Saint George Groves for the vacant title.
     
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  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Whatever happens Smith prob loses as firstly he's a Smith brother and secondly he's trained by Joe Gallagher. Combined that means he'll get plenty of title shots but lose any meaningful fights he has.
     
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  3. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Degale would like nothing more than to beat Callum Smith id even say its on a par with avenging Groves!
    Where do you think all the bad blood stems from with Hearn?
     
  4. Bad News Brit

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    I think basically DeGale got spoilt when he Hearn lost the purse bid v Dirrell. He assumed the grass was greener with Haymon and thought he'd be getting that money regularly, while Hearn had big plans for DeGale in the UK (if you recall DeGale v Dirrell was going to headline the card that Brook Gavin did)
     
  5. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Degale wanted Hearn to really back him but he seemed more interested in Callum Smith and all hearn would talk about was Callum smith taking over SMW.

    Either way Degale would love to smash Callum Smith and stick it to Hearn.
     
  6. Bad News Brit

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    I don't think so. While he was taking DeGale the IBF route, he was taking Smith the WBC. I don't think he started talking about Smith taking over 168 until after DeGale signed with Haymon and the writing was on the wall.

    Perhaps part of his beef was Hearn pushing for Froch to have different fights while DeGale was his mandatory. Anyway, DeGale may earn more per fight under Haymon for now, but I still think he made a mistake in the long run. I think the Bute fight would've happened over here (& DeGale would've got money from PPV as it was on the same day as Fury-Klitschko), dealt with his mandatory over here in the Joshua undercard in April, probably have fought Groves on PPV in Oct/Nov (while Smith beat Jack for the WBC) and be heading to a unification v Smith now.
     
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  7. On_The_Ropes

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    If Degale beats Jack like I think he will then I would be shocked if he didn't face his mando Smith next, it would do good numbers on PPV.

    If Groves gets a title through the WBA route then the winner of Degales/Smith could fight Groves in a unification fight towards the end of 2017.
     
  8. BigCal94

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    DeGale lost his chance of getting over with the UK fans when he left Hearn.
    There is a reason he was fighting in shopping centres and small halls. He's extremely un-likeable, he's an arrogant ***** and there was a lot of joy when he was beaten by Groves again.

    Eddie turned that around a bit and built him up and then he threw that back by going off to the US. He did an IFL interview a few weeks ago where he said he could sell out the emirates, hilarious. He get's booed in england, without a big undercard he wouldn't even sell out the O2.
     
  9. Jeremy Kyle

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    Sadly this does seem to be the trend, None of the smiths have ever looked truly world class, Even tho liam won a title he didn't win it from a world class operator. I hope callum is the one to go on and do it properly but i just don't see him going on to win it and defend against the best.
     
  10. Brixton Bomber

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    Lol.
     
  11. Tommy.™

    Tommy.™ Active Member Full Member

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    If DeGale beats Jack then it's inevitable that he'll fight Callum Smith. DeGale would love to school Eddie Hearn's golden boy and tbh it's quite an easy fight for him. DeGale will give Smith a boxing lesson. Callum Smith is overrated and has a long way to go.
     
  12. Bad News Brit

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    I guarantee you 100% not even DeGale sees Smith as an easy fight. But he's not saying it from behind a keyboard
     
  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jack or Degale both beat Smith
     
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  14. Tommy.™

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    Smith is DeGale's mandatory if he beats Jack and you really think DeGale is going to vacate the title, miss out on a massive pay day and duck Callum Smith? Look, I'm not saying Callum Smith is bad, he's a good fighter with decent power but he's simply not at that level. In my opinion DeGale is the best super middleweight in the world I guarantee he's not ducking somebody who's best win has come against Rocky Fielding lol.
     
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  15. Bad News Brit

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    It depends, like I said, he also has his IBF mandatory, and he's gets paid massive money by Haymon anyway. And with the beef with Hearn and now BT offering an alternative to Sky, he might go to 'the proper unification route' and allow Smith to fight for the vacant WBC belt then say he'll fight him if he wins.