Hunter: Eastern European Robots scared to dig in and fight inside?

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  1. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    we know this strictly isn't true... with guys like provodnikov, jirov and even someone like GGG who like to mix it up inside.

    But what is it with guys like Tszyu and Kovalev.... big puncher-boxer types but scared when it doesn't go their way and it goes to into the trenches?
     
  2. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Beterbiev is a good inside fighter. Hunter is a moron.
     
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  3. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    hunter is very confused, he doesn't realise that ward doesn't fight on the inside either, unless he counts wrestling ,mauling headbutting and rabbit punching as inside fighting, kovalev wanted to keep it at range to keep the work clean and avoid wards dirty tactics.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Virgil Hunter should be banned for racial trolling.
     
  5. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i wouldn't call him a racist. He's just doing what a lot of boxing analysts do and categorizing boxers from a particular part of the world (or particular school) and associating them with a certain style.

    i.e. latin, mexican fighters macho brawlers, eastern europeans robotic disciplined straight up style, black american slick style.

    And when you look at it, there is a lot of truth to this, at least at the highest elite level. The best American black boxer is a slick skilled fighter, while best eastern european Wlad, Kovalev are more straight up fighter types.

    Hunter even goes further and categorizes a particular type of eastern european - The one with big reputation as puncher-boxer types. like Kovalev and Kosta Tzsyu.

    Even Kovalev trainer Jackson said in the rematch he will tell kovalev to prove less about being tough inside and actually teach him how to better deal with infighting wrestling type of tactics.
     
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  6. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    And Lomachenko isn't straight up, neither is Usyk and neither was Pirog who KTFO Jacobs. So much about that theory.
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Breaking down? Hardly.

    No inside game? Er, Ward was shooting TAKEDOWNS, Virgil, there was NO INSIDE FIGHTING!
     
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  8. Redondo5

    Redondo5 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    a fight is a fight.... in fighting and grappling is part of boxing... especially if you have a referee who accomodates it. You expect the boxers to agree and fight at kovalevs agreed distance? Now Ward knows he can drain koivalev on the inside unless kovalev will come with something new to deal with it in the next fight.
    it's not a theory... it's a generalization that does has some truth to it. There are always going to be exceptions to the rule....at the elite level you will have boxers who have multiple facets to their game. e.g. Kovalev is a decent boxer and not just a big puncher.

    TBH, I hope Kovalev changes his style and mentality... before this he relied a lot on reputation and bully tactics. I hope he reacts like Matthysse did after his so called robberies against Judah and Alexander, where after those fights he did everything he could to leave it out of the judges hands..... especially Kovalev who probably has the biggest firepower in boxing and he hardly let his hands go. Worse, he said "he will kick his ass" in the rematch...he better live up to his words
     
  9. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward was landing mostly body shots on the inside. I know folks don't count body shots but this is getting ridiculous.
     
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  10. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hunters trolling hard as hell

    Got everyone hiding behind the flag
     
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  11. Johnnyblaze

    Johnnyblaze Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with the idea that MOST European fighters don't fight on the inside, but it's because of the way they were taught. If you look at how Ward dominated Kessler and Froch, they looked completely inept at close range. John David Jackson noticed it as well and taught Kov how to neutralize Ward's inside game by tying his arms up when he got close.
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I saw his interview. There is a grain of truth to his thought.
     
  13. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How was that a racist statement and who do you mean by "us"? It was more of a nationalist statement than anything else.
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I would love to see Mr Hunter attend Russia and say these words in front of their people

    Better yet let's see Hunter judge for himself and how well he fare's speaking such words within range of Sergey.
     
  15. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pauli is the one that said EE have a certain style where they hone their craft so much that it becomes automatic like robots. Way to take this crap waaay out of context and play the reverse race card. Everyone knows different regions of boxing have a characteristic style, a signature of their own.