How has AJ not been caught doping yet?

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  1. Subak

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    You can get steroids there like anywhere else, it's just going to be hella expensive to buy. Plenty of Korean bodybuilders have been popped before. That dude is not natural lol. I'm not sure if you're trolling or not.
     
  2. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've read the same studies that they used on rats. I don't think someone can look like Joshua though if they only 'used' steroids in the past (years ago) and are trying to maintain it naturally. Joshua is obviously enhanced.
     
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    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    HGH, insulin and IGF-1 do not even get tested for and TEST with no ester is out of you system in 8 hours. This is just the tip of the iceberg, trust me...
     
  5. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    You can't stay way over genetic potential, but you will not lose everything and go back to original self unless you were already at your limit.

    I'm sorry your friends are ******s who didn't know you still needed to eat adequately and workout to maintain.

    Again, **** off, ******.
     
  6. bluebird

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    You think Joshua is not over his natural potential? maybe you are the '****ing ******'. Love how you're getting so angry, by the way...
     
  7. IKSAB

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    Not sure why so many people here seem desperate for Joshua to be juicing. Wlad fans getting their excuses in early I guess.
     
  8. bluebird

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    They are both juicing.
     
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    Then there's micro-dosing. Before testing came into being, athletes used to take massive doses. The 400m women's record set in the 70s still exists today and yet athletes still dope. This is testament to the fact they have honed the dosing to a level where the benefits are still clear - although not as extreme - but the body is clean merely hours later. And like you say, there are PEDs which still fly under the radar. The latest innovation is gene-doping. Not something that's evident in boxing, I would guess but the point is: dopers are always at least one step ahead...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25687002
     
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    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    No, we're having an intelligent discussion about drugs in sport, with AJ in the spotlight. Why is everything about fandom to some? It's like being back at school...
     
  11. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I'd say he's around his genetic potential, yes. With his being Black and his height-adjusted FFMI being around 25.

    But that's beside the point.

    Anabolic steroids often result in a considerable increase in water accumulation in muscles. This dissipates after you stop your cycle and people mistake that for losing "everything."

    No, you certainly do not lose "everything."

    A significant part of muscle synthesis is the acquisition of new "muscle cells" (well, technically not cells, but nuclei. But that's beyond this discussion). These do not die, even after cessation of whatever drugs you're using. These new cells make it considerably easier to build and maintain muscle, and, of course, provide performance benefits.

    http://www.the-aps.org/mm/hp/Audiences/Public-Press/Archive/08/30.html
    (This is not a source for everything I said, just supports some of it.)
     
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  12. Kevin Willis

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    It is more about using stuff that is out of your system fast like HGH and TEST suspension with no ester. They can show up and test you early in the morning and you will then have at least a 16 hr window before they test you again. Athletes run their gear right after being tested then it leaves their system in plenty of time before the next possible test.

    like I mentioned before some real powerful stuff like IGF-1 does not even get testef for but it is vulgarly expensive at least 5X as much as real HGH.

    Thanks for the gene doping link. I really have to look into this.
     
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    Thanks for this, a good explanation...
     
  14. Todd498

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    Or caught like chubby boy Toney or "Let's go Deca!" Briggs. Funny how certain people didn't celebrate or fuss when those idiots popped. Or Mosley! Lol! Or Ortiz!
     
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    If you consider pure speculation to be intelligent discussion, sure.