Povetkin: Stiverne wanted a way out....

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  1. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Its a diuretic and a masking agent, the sports drink excuse was extremely convienent and the wbc were more than happy to buy it. Shows their double standards
     
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  2. gmurphy

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    Its a diuretic and a masking agent, the sports drink excuse was extremely convienent and the wbc were more than happy to buy it. Shows their double standards
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    They ought to ban him for a year in principle if they want to put up a good front.

    Practically speaking, however, nothing would change for Povetkin. He can keep fighting in Russia, people will still come there if the money's right, and it's business as usual. If the WBC doesn't want to take his sanctioning money, one of the other big 4 will. At which point Ryabinsky will suggest that maybe none of his fighters will stick with the WBC anymore.

    And, since this was a U.S. testing lab, most of his fanbase will easily buy into the "politically driven screwjob" narrative, true or not. I will say it's unusual that he's tested negative all throughout the process until the final test right before the fight twice in a row against U.S. promoted heavyweights.
     
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  4. Manfred

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    Yeah, but you are leaving a key word and that word is intent. While Stiverne was in err the intent to be dishonest was not there. What Potvetkin did, he did with the intent to cheat and was clearly an act of premeditated irresponsibility.
     
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  5. Manfred

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    In what way is it a masking agent?
     
  6. madballster

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    See that's the problem: Proving intent. If we give Stiverne a pass that "he didn't intend to cheat" then where's the red line? Lucas Browne was claiming he didn't knowingly ingest Clenbuterol, and after all, it was a drug for cutting weight which in heavyweight boxing made no logical sense. So we gave him a pass. And then he cheated on us again.

    Stiverne is a professional athlete. He makes his living with this He knows exactly what he's doing. If he ingests a protein shake, an energy drink or some sort of supplement he knows exactly about the performance enhancing properties. Just because a drug is "mixed into a drink" instead of being a pill in pure chemical form (like Ostarine) doesn't make it less bad.
     
  7. AlwaysFirst

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    It's a stimulant and like most stimulant if you take too much you can get a heart attack. It's banned because of that in competition. Too much caffeine is illegal in comptition as well.
     
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  8. AlwaysFirst

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    No it's not, don't make **** up
     
  9. Manfred

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    I hear you but lets talk about exactly what it was. It was a sports drink and what performance enhancing abilities did it possess? I read from one poster that it was a diuretic and acted as a masking agent. Ok, so what did it mask? Are you saying that he had drugs mixed in the sports drink only to **** it right back out. Where's the benefits. Just because he is a professional athlete doesn't mean that knows everything about what's in every drink or what he eats. He has people for that and it's their job to keep up on that. His focus is training and honing his skills. Again, it's really reaching to try and indict him on that and that's why it wasn't prosecuted. You already know what's up with Povetkin and that's a different animal altogether.
     
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  10. AlwaysFirst

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    Well, Stiverne admitted it himself taking a banned stimulant, the substance was also out of his body in the next days after that. Browne and Povetkin did not admit to any wrongdoing and was caught with their substances on fight day, it's a big difference.
     
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  11. punisher

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    All the Wilder fears Povetkin talk needs to stop. What is clear is that PEDVETKIN fears fighting without some type of chemically induced edge. A serial cheater who should just hang em up. He was never anything special anyway.
     
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  12. chitownfightfan

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    Ostarine is in nutritional supplement OTC products as well.
    It's by no means an anabolic steroid you knuckefukk
     
  13. gmurphy

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    it also makes no sense for povetkin to take it a few days before a fight when he tested negative for the whole year before it
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    It is anabolic. And it mimicks steroid affects/results with a much shorter half-life (so it's easier to cheat and not get caught since it gets out of your system quicker ... just not fast enough for Sasha).
     
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  15. BlizzyBlizz

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    ****en pathetic lmfao...