Degale was very lucky to get a draw, he's struggling at world level in almost every fight

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  1. Mod-Mania

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    Ummm, this threads nothing to do with your son Chris.
     
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    Degale has never really won over many people, but he has to be respected. Traveling on the road fighting the best available at his weight.
    His skills are are as good as anyone, however from early in his pro career it has been obvious there is a lack of concentration and ruthlessness, that will prevent him from being a special fighter.
    He has always been missing that extra edge.
     
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    We're you watching something diffrent from the rest of us mate, if anything Callum hasn't been in a war anything like Saturday's fight, we now know it's in jame's locker can Callum do it 12 rounds?
    I've no doubt he can but until proven we just don't know
     
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    Well he does have very impressive skills...albeit unconventional ones...all the more so because his achievements have come WITHOUT solid traditional guard... jab etc......

    But we saw from the state of his face versus jacks face the reality of the price you pay for lacking solid fundamentals at top level. One fighter in there had solid fundamentals and the other didn't. Their faces tell the story.


    History is full of similar examples...Barrera-hamed, graham-mccallum etc etc
    Jack is a good ...not great ...fighter.
    Had jack been a t Barrera or mccallum level he would have hammered de gale.
    Flashy skills almost always lose out to solid fundamentals at top level.
     
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    Champagne Popping The TRUTH is the TRUTH banned Full Member

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    Degale always seems to get marked up badly after every fight
     
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    Callum smith wont beat...degale, groves or jack. Hes the best of the smith brothers...for sure. Good height, length and power strength etc. But hes beating up on smaller men that cant punch. Its making him look better than he is.

    I think his achilles heel will be when he does start getting hit back with guys that can punch. You ll see him go into his shell a bit. Because hes not fast enough to deal with it. Will be a combination of his speed stamina and accuracy that let him down at that level. He can be accurate but theres too many lazy punches threw not quite quick enough during a fight. He ll be made to pay for that at the top level.

    Will be competetive cause he is good but cant see him winning any of them. Hes fighting at his own pace atm. Lets see how he fares when the pace ups against harder more accurate fighters.

    I d go as far to say dirrell if they fight next beats him. Or will at least be the same case again...direll hitting the clean shots with callum hitting arms etc.
     
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    Whilst I agree Froch would knock him out, there's no way he would outbox him. Froch always struggled against fast boxers with a bit of movement. Degale would pick him off at will for the first few rounds, then gas and get brutally sparked out.
     
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    He's got to prove himself but at the same time you have to earn it, and he's certainly done that.

    I've watched a lot of his fights and this lad has got huge potential. I appreciate that actually doing it is different but he's got the tools and devastating power. If he lands sweet on the chin it'll be boo bees time for any opponent. His body shots are awesome too.
     
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    Yeah agree to an extent twenty. Hes a good fighter with a lot of potential. But needs another few fights before direll. The guys hes going in with are usually always light punchers. Small. Or have no speed. Sometimes all three. He suddenly wont look as good when hes in against guys that have all three which most of the top guys have.

    How he makes the weight i ve no idea...cause the guys a unit tho.
     
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    It's a tough fight mate but he's been knocking the lads out for fun who are that level below world class. He's been ready to progress since the Mohoumadi fight, he's just been waiting patiently, ticking over against domestic opposition, using them as glorified sparring sessions.
     
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    He is the most frustrating british boxer i have seen. I asked myself how calzaghe would do against jack and I reckon pretty easily.
     
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    Really?? Jack is far from world class, there's nothing to his game, he just tries hard, Degale should of delt with him but he switched off mentally. Fair play to Jack though..
     
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    He does everything to a good standard, big/strong at the weight and has a solid defence which doesn't let a lot of shots through. Someone who has just beaten Dirrell, Groves, Bute and arguably DeGale you can't call anything but world class. That's one of the best current runs in boxing, Jack needs to be given more credit I feel.
     
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    I agree with this. I think we all have our own ideas/tastes of what we think is world class.

    There's more than one style of boxing that wins fights. But cv's and world title belts speak for themselves.