What rules would like enforced in boxing to ensure better fights ?

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  1. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Better judging ,better refereeing , no weighing in 20lbs after rehydrating ?
     
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  2. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the ones you mentioned for me.
    They should have like a governing body or a group that has the power to overrule and decide the outcome of the fight if the cards are ridiculously wrong.

    Checking/fining the referees for stupid calls would also be good.
     
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  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    One that I mentioned earlier is for both boxers to be able to veto judges before the fight. And if judges get vetoed too much they just lose their license for at least a while.
    That way the bad apples are just out of a job by their own doing.

    And of course you already mentioned some.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Clinching loses you the round.
     
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  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I disagree, but clinching holding and hitting should be penalized in the right way. With warnings and point deductions when they keep it up. Eventually disqualification when they keep doing it.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Clinching, for me, is a lazy alternative to footwork and infighting.

    Imagine how much better the HW division would have been if every time a man got past the jab, Wlad had to duke it out or circle and counter.

    3 things I hate in boxing passionately

    1) the level of matchmaking
    2) the lack of championship clarity
    3) excessive clinching by HW fighters.
     
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  7. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fouls should be penalised far more often. It should be an objective rule for example that two accidental fouls incur a warning and the third and every occasion thereafter is penalised. They're not because taking away a single point will pretty often determine the winner. So I think the scoring system needs to be changed, like more of the 10 points used for the degree a round was won by, rather than scoring each round a point more for one guy. With the current system maybe a half point could be deducted rather than one, I don't know. But refs and the boxing system have always been so terrified of penalising fouls like they should be because they know doing so would bury the guy in the scorecards and often pretty much hand the the win to the other.
     
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  8. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that when clinching is used to hit it should be strictly penalised. But clinching is not illegal and it's stupid to suugest we should penalise every clinch. Even if a ref determines a fighter's clinching excessively is he supposed to then take a point every time his arm comes into contact with the other guy's arm?
     
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  9. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    For fairer fight, I want the commission to adopt VADA testing for all title fights in America.
    For better scoring, how about 2 more extra judges, watching from tv at a booth with no commentary. Or instead of judges sitting below the ring side, maybe judges sitting in a higher position.
     
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  10. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thread title is a good topic and was what I responded to. But 'better judging','better refereeing' and not rehydrating after a weigh-in enforcing are not rules that aren't enforced. **** judging happens because there aren't rules to prevent it. And dehydrating to make weigh weight then putting on weight is perfectly reasonable within boxing's weigh-in rules.
     
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  11. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know qwerty what you are saying is correct but boxing is full of greedy , grubs like promoters, alphabet
    organisation who have little morals, class or dignity. I think its is really unfair if a fighter goes to another
    fighters country or city they live and the only way they can win is by ko or unless they win every round
    it is a draw.
    Have you seen some of the differences in size of fighter's on the night ? In know its within the rules but
    sometimes its up to a 10 pounds plus difference in weight. How can that be fair ?
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Like Querty already tried to say (I believe) is that the judging troubles have nothing to do with the quality of the judges, but way more with the fact that nothing is done when they deliberately screw up. They actually get rewarded for it by being invited by te same promoter next time.
     
  13. rocky90501

    rocky90501 New Member Full Member

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    clinching, running !!!!!
     
  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    of course clinching is illegal, otherwise the ref would have no reason to break up a clinch.
     
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  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    None of those are rules.

    How bout holding and hitting.
    If you didnt score kidney shots that Ward landed v Kovalev while holding him, KOvalev would have outlanded Ward 250-20 instead of 250-40.