There are no punchers at 168

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  1. Richards

    Richards Active Member banned Full Member

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    fighters moving up from 160 like murray and Rubio went 12 rounds with dirrel and groves,abraham
    dirrel himself could not even put a dent on Curtis stevens infact he to preoccupied with stevens power

    degale and groves hit about the same and both would not be able to stop murray for example

    thoughts?
     
  2. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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  3. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    After watching Benadivez last week I think the 168 division might have one.

    Now I know the opponent wasn't good but Benadivez looks heavy handed to me.
     
  4. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah, it's kind of weird. 168 doesn't have any heavy hitters like 160 or 175, but it does have skilled fighters. I'm confident that DeGale would work over everyone at 160 aside from Golovkin, but I think Lemeiux and Stevens hit harder than him. It isn't like boxing is solely decided by who can hit harder so it doesn't really matter.
     
  5. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    It's not that there are no punchers. It's the pure FACT that 168 has some real tough guys there.
    You underhandedly made this about Golovkin by naming his former opponents,when Golovkin has never fought or KOd anyone at 168. When and if he ever does then you can say this stupid, dumb, nonsense.
     
  6. Gamboa Fan

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    Groves and Callum Smith are big punchers
     
  7. Gamboa Fan

    Gamboa Fan New Member banned Full Member

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    hhahahahhaa the overrating of Degale continues! Unbelievable!

    Degale just isn't very good it's as simple as that! He could easily have 6 losses on hos record - Groves, Wiczielski, Dirrell, Medina, Bute, Jack. In most other division he'd only be European level.. hes lucky 168 is weak.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    The thing is, this dude thinks he's clever in the way he makes his point via the backdoor. But it's so obvious, I kinda feel sorry for the small-minded chap. He's just not very good at it.. lol
     
  9. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    DeGale is a very solid fighter. I will tolerate no James DeGale slander hehe!
     
  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's just a new version of his perennial "Nobody can stop Martin Murray at 168 or below" thread.
     
  11. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Never seen Smith, but was just gonna say that Groves. He can bang for sure. Very very few have the chin will and heart of the Iron Cobra
     
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  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Lol let him have his fun
     
  13. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's very solid indeed, but he's probably the weakest #1 guy in any of the divisions.
     
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  14. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ...Yeah probably. Wait no, I think he's better than Lara who is considered the #1 at 154 since Canelo doesn't really count. Damn I never thought about it like that. I went through the weightclasses in my head, got down to 130 and quit. That's really interesting. I mean, take away Golovkin and he has 160 beat but even for the other divisions if you take away the #1 I don't think DeGale is head and shoulders above everyone there. Honestly Andrade is probably better than DeGale and once you factor in power and what they do at their respective weights Jermall Charlo and Julian Williams also have him beat there.
     
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  15. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HW, CW, jr MW don't have a clear #1 yet but I think Joshua, Usyk, Andrade, Jermall Charlo are all better and more complete fighters than him. I'm not entirely convinced if he's really a superior talent to someone like a Linares or even Saunders.