Funny how all the Wilder detractors were crying about how he was going to fight another drug cheat.

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    When it wasn't even official. Bu bu bu he only wants to fight weak cheats :drooling:, bu bu bu he's contradicting himself :crybaby2:.
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    What are you on about?!
    Team Wilder came up with 2 time offender Wach as a possible opponent themselves. It's not like people picked that name out of thin air.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stfu, who is he fighting? Wait till the fight is actually official to criticize him. Bu bu bu his team his contradicting themselves they wanna fight weak drug cheats :crybaby2:
     
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    Are you that simple or are you just pretending to be?!
    Within 2 days they had issued a statement that they weren't going to fight drug cheats like Ortiz, and then came up with drug cheat Wach as a possible opponent as a replacement for Wawrzyk. What about that isn't hypocritical you'd say?
     
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    Use your brain if you have one, they might not have been aware of Wach's past history. Can you link me to where the Wilder camp directly said that Wach was a possible replacement btw? I can't find anything on it. At the end of the day it's not hypocritical because it was never official. You ******s and certain fans who hate certain fighters jump and try to criticize a guy before it's actually set in stone.
     
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    Oh F_CK off!
    You really believe they didn't know that?! They just came up with the name Wach without missing the history about both his two biggest fights (losses and titlefights) somehow?!
    "PED users ruled out" to Wach mentioned as a possible opponent days later?!
    And I'm noing to find the news for you about a subject what has already been discussed, with links and you bjust brought back up yourself, and thus know about!
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    What? Can you type in English you spastic. What the hell are you going on about.
    I've heard it discussed on this forum, but I want to see the link myself, maybe there is information on the link that will give us a better idea on what happened. Instead of spazzing out because you don't have the link, just say that.
    At the end of the day you weirdos that have an agenda against certain fighters should have just waited. An official opponent was going to be announced within a week. But of course you weirdos had to go and try and discredit Wilder more instead of waiting. Btw I looked up Wach's drug history which I was not aware about, and he was cleared in 2015, and in 2012 the only source that reported he failed was Wlad's manager.
    I dont remember if GGG and Brook was a rumor, but one thing is forsure, I did not criticize GGG for being a coward for fighting a WW before the fight was official. Same as Pac fighting Horn, or Floyd fighting Berto.
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    That is a totally different point!
    GGG didn't say "I'll never fight a welter" and then came up with Brook as an option for his next fight!
    Pac never said "I don't fight inexperienced Aussies" and then brought up Horn as his next opponent!
    Floyd never said "I don't fight drug cheats" and then came up with Berto days later!

    No matter if these fights did or will take place, it's about what the Wilder team stated to rule out Ortiz, and then completely forgot about their excuse next when there was the option to fight a much weaker opponent with an even more tainted history. Even if those fights mentioned above had never happened in reality and they had said something like that before, then that's called hypocrisy.

    But you clearly can't see that, so I'll give it a rest.
     
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    Didn't GGG criticize Canelo for fighting a WW in Khan? LMAO. What were you saying?
    Either way that's not my point. Are you stupid? My point is don't criticize someone until it's actually official. I mean especially in this case since the name was going to be released within a week.

    Where is the link? Was this fight a "rumor", or did Wilder's team actually say they're looking at Wach. Like I said without the link it's pure speculation. Also how does Wach have a more tainted history? He was cleared in 2015, and the only source that reported that he tested positive was Wlad's manager. The NSAC reported Ortiz's drug failure to the media. No drug testing agency reported Wach, unless you have a link. Let's speak with facts here, not emotions.
    And no he's not being a hypocrite if he doesn't actually fight him. You made a fool out of yourself criticizing Wilder before it was official, now you're trying to save face.
     
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    He is fighting a guy that got boo'd out the arena last time he fought, no shock that he is a Heyman fighter the fact he is ranked top 10 in WBC is a joke. Another joke fight from Wilder and his team what are they afraid of ?
     
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    Not even as close to being a joke as Wade being GGG's mandatory after coming off robbing Soliman LMAO. Too bad Pedvetkin is a cheater huh? I wanted to see that fight.
     
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    Yeah agreed that was a poor mando for GGG

    Povetkin only has his self to blame obviously caught micro dosing by looks of it and its a shame because I think would have been a great scrap ( I think Povetkin would win by KO )

    Povetkin aside and no idea why GGG is in this conversation but DW's run of opponents after Stiverne is awful for a champ, and he has had options over this time to step up aside from Povetkin .... how many voluntaries he had now ? it is shocking even AJ is fighting Klitchko who even though is likely over the hill would still be a much bigger step up than anyone of DW resume.
    He needs to leave Alabama and put up or get knocked out because he is fast becoming a joke
     
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    Only possible opponent I can think of is Pulev. Washington is as good or better than all of the other HW that are available. Hughie/Parker rather fight each other than Wilder, can you blame Hughie, and Parker for wanting the easier fight? no. AJ/Wlad are fighting each other, Hearn has been on record saying it's too early for Wilder, they want an old Wlad instead, which is the smart business move. Tyson Fury we don't know what's going on with him. If he fought Ortiz how big of a
    hypocrite would he look like after all the **** he said about Pedvetkin?
    Washington is a super solid opponent though, not disappointed in this one, I was disappointed in Warwzyk, but Washington is a really good replacement on short notice.
     
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    TKO6 Boxcar for life Full Member

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    He has had opportunity to fight others in his current run though, I agree as it stands not a huge amount of choice out there, be interesting to see what would happen if Ortiz got to the mado spot in WBC ( would he vacate or fight ? )

    The WBC ranking Washington is suspect though, Haymon fighter fought on Wilders bill in Alabama last year stunk the place out and got a lucky decision in his last fight ( a 10 rounder he lost at least 6 rounds in ) the guy is the American David Price he gasses after 4 rounds, you would think the whole thing was fixed !!! ;)

    I am just keen to see if he is the real deal or just another Michael Grant ... from the fights I have seen I would say the later as his technique is so poor, but he is athletic and packs a punch so that could make up for that.

    This fight is a joke though Whyte Takam Pulev all potentially available even Chisora would be better than this !
     
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    Well if Ortiz is the mando then he wouldn't look like a hypocrite if he fought him imo. Why would he vacate? He wasn't going to vacate for Povetkin, dude went to Europe to prepare for the fight.

    All rankings are suspect. I mean look at GGG's resume, 99% of his mandos are bums that have fought no one. Look at even Curtis Stevens, dude loses to brinkley and beats a bunch of bums then suddenly he's teh mando, and that's one of GGG's better wins lmao.

    Takam just literally fought he's not available. Chisora/Whyte just fought recently too, doubt they'd be ready for a Wilder fight after that war. Pulev is the only real name, though we don't even know fi he'd take the fight after ducking AJ.