Which lineal champ from holmes onwards could Jerry quarry defeat?

Anyone can get lucky on anyone but it just doesn't happen very often to hyper talented skilled pros. There's a reason Wlad was able to be atop the division for a decade. I see Povetkin as a better version of Quarry and he got nowhere versus Waldo.

 

I don't think Quarry hit as hard as Sanders, Brewster or Purity to be honest. And nor was he anywhere near their size. Of course his boxing skills were superior to all of them but I don't think that's what beat Wlad in those fights. Even though he was a well developed fighter by the early 2000's, being a former olympian, racking up a lot of professional wins, and having an amazing physique, he still had a lot of holes in his game until Manny Steward helped to patch them up. I can't see Quarry beating even the rough version of Wlad let alone the more mature version post 2004.

 

Oh absolutely. One thing that his critics seldom give him credit for is coming back from those defeats and all three of them were positively devastating. Even one loss like that has been known to ruin entire careers.

 

I agree with part of what you said. Sanders and Purritty where a lot bigger and punched harder. The second part I disagree with. Stewart didn't fix anything. Once Wlad got knocked out 3 times he just decided to grab and hold his opponents. That isn't fixing any of the holes in this game. Also the level of opponents he faced after Brewster knocked him out. Guys with cute records but never beat anybody, or guys who just aren't good at all like Derrick Jefferson, Ray Austin, and tons of others.

Wlad would probably stop Quarry in a few rounds. Way quicker than guys like Norton, Ali, and Frazier did since he is a way bigger puncher than them.

 

Let's be clear who we are talking about. M. Spinks, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Moorer, Foreman, Briggs (are we counting him?), Lewis, Rahman, V. Klitschko (are we counting him?), W. Klitschko, Fury. I don't think Quarry would beat any of them. The end.

 

Quarry could have beaten:

Mike Spinks
Douglas
Moorer
McCall
Rahman
Old Foreman
Briggs

He might be favorite over Rhaman, and McCall, and the older Foreman and Briggs.

Actually, he's a long shot to beat them all. Upsets happen.

 

By the time Wlad was considered lineal, I don't see many guys getting lucky with a home run, he was too well experienced and prepared by that point. Almost every guy he fought as lineal tried to bank on a knockout and came up short.

Quarry certainly blasted out the vulnerable Shavers, but that really wasn't his thing. He was a smaller tech guy, the type Wlad specialized in shutting out and beating up. I see Quarry/Wlad being similar Chambers/Wlad. Though Quarry would take more risks than Fast Eddie and end up getting caught earlier and cut up.

 

I've been gone forever but nothing has changed with the Jerry Quarry love around here. Come on guys, come up with something fresh.

 

It should be called the Jerry Quarry and Sonny Liston forum.

They combined for 2 HW World Title wins... Liston KO1 Patterson x2. Patterson was basically a LHW who stopped cutting weight, he was down over 20 times in his career.

They combined for 4 losses to Ali, all by stoppage, never making it past the 7th round.

They combined for 3 wins and a draw over Hall of Famer Floyd Patterson. Quarry fought the past prime Patterson twice, both fights were close, Quarry and Patterson were both knocked down. Liston and Quarry did not beat any other Hall of Famers.

Quarry lost to Hall of Famers Ellis, Frazier x2, Ali x2, and Norton. He also lost to a past prime Eddie Machen who had given Liston a tough fight.

 

Quarry came along when some the best heavys in history were around. But watch some film on him, he was very well skilled. He doesn't beat a Tyson or Holyfield or Lewis. Maybe the Kleischkos beat him. But anyone else? If he's right (meaning ready to fight) he's no less then 50/50 against them . Esp the Heavys of the last few yrs (D.Wilder? Yes I'm looking at you lol)

 

Lol well this forum loves to brag about old timers like Liston and Quarry and make them out to be better than they were. Liston best wins were against Patterson a guy who would be considered a light heavyweight today and Cleveland Williams who would be considered a journeyman fighter.

But basically people here act like Liston was some giant of a man who nobody could beat. I think they do this so they can build up Ali.

Just like you love to see people on this forum talking about how 170-180 pound guys like Marciano and Gene Tunney could beat guys like Tyson, Foreman, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, either Klistchko brother because they boxed back in the day and their man love for these people.