If you were the Ref.. Would you have DQ'd Holyfield (Tyson fight)?

He didn't foul any more than Tyson did. And neither of them fouled more than usual. Both were rough fighters. It's a shame people around Tyson and some of his worse fans made a big deal out of Holyfield's headbutts, and influenced Tyson to use that as excuse to have a meltdown in the 2nd fight.

 

When two aggressive fighters go head on, they literally go head on.

 

Yeah agree. Tyson had a nerve complaining about anyone fouling. He pretty much made a career of it himself.

 

Omg GTFOH, the head-butt that caused Tyson's cut in their first bout was Tyson's fault, he lunged in with the head and came off second best.....

 

I'm with the rest here. I don't think Holy was dirtier than Tyson, and the headbutts were mainly a function of Holy bracing himself when Tyson came in, even though he probably made sure to get some extra mileage out of that head. But it's pro boxing. It is sometimes quite dirty, and that was no problem at all for Tyson when he got the better of it. Applying the rules strictly - how many times would Tyson have been DQ:d for headbutts, hitting on the break, after the bell and when someone was down? Of all the Tyson fanboy fantasies, the idea that Holy should have been DQ:d might be the most pathetic.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

It's how it is. It's not tennis there playing, things are going to get rough in there especially when the other guys notorious for fouling. Mike did plenty in his time. I love watching tyson but the old, I bit his ear off cos he was butting Me, doesn't wash with me. It was how holy field used to fight a lot of the time. It's not as if he wasn't throwing punches to.

 

Holyfield deserves to get DQ'd for butting Tyson as much as Tyson deserved to get DQ'd for tattooing Razor Ruddock's nuts with low blows and hitting him after the bell in their rematch.

Funny how the Tyson fanboys/crybabies don't mention his conduct in that fight when he has a win.

Holyfield roughed Tyson up, smothered him and beat him up and Tyson couldn't handle it when it became readily apparent that fight no 2 was heading down that very same path. He beat him with skill, heart and toughness not with headbutts.

 

He didn't deserve to get DQ'd but I think a point deduction would've been fair. I don't think Mills Lane did a good job.

 

I think it was more that Holyfield was a bit more annoying and namby pamby with it which is sometimes more annoying whereas Tyson was just an aggressive SOB and didn't attempt to do it on the sly he just did it in full knowledge whereas Holyfield was a bit sly with it - I found Holyfield quite annoying anyway because of all the hypocritical holier than thou bill and the roids etc so when he then started using his head a blatantly gaining from it is wanted Tyson to bite himy again at the time and really take him to the gutter haha but I suppose it's a person thing

 

I thought it was the opposite. If anyone was "namby pampy" with it it was Tyson.
Tyson was the one crying to the referee. Tyson was the one crying after the 2nd fight about having a cut on his eye "It'll scare my children" he whined. Tyson whined a lot when things weren't going his way.
Holyfield, on the other hand, even when he had his ear bit off, was pretty much willing to get back on with it and knock Tyson out.

I never understood how Holyfield is blasted as a "hypocrite". I mean, he definitely let it be known he was a Christian but the main criticism of him in that regard was the fact he had some kids with women he wasn't married to. But boxing - and life - is littered with similar types. It's hardly any of our business.
Mike Tyson came out of jail saying he was a devout muslim but went straight back to hanging around with gangsters, drug dealers and showing off his Ferraris and pet tigers and gold. What's the difference ?

I don't remember either Tyson or Holyfield using their religious identity to make judgements on the rest of us anyway (Like Muhmmad Ali sometimes did) so their "hypocrisy" wasn't a problem, in my opinion.

 

No, he shouldn't have been DQ'd.

Tyson liked to rush in with his hard, arced punches and opponents out of fear of this tank of a tiger coming to maul them. In doing so, they'd full right back into Tyson's wheelhouse.

Holy held his ground and ducked his head forward, meeting the irresistable force that was comign at him and keeping himself out of the wheelhouse. And he was just as naturally aggressive as Tyson if not moreso, so you have them banging together a lot.

I didn't see any deliberate butting in either fight. I saw heads clash but not at intent to use the head as a battering ram. And Holy was better schooled and/or more disciplined to keep the crown of his head down, while Tyson didn't ... which is what you teach to avoid getting cut when heads collide.

 

Great post, why the hell has Unforgiven been booted?