Virgil Hunter: What Canelo is Doing is a Mockery To Boxing!

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  1. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hunter claims Canelo places unrealistic demands on his opponents, both from a financial and a physical standpoint. Khan wanted that fight at the junior middleweight limit of 154, but claims Canelo would not budge from 155. "What Canelo is doing is a real mockery for boxing," said Hunter to ESPN Deportes. "He can claim his right to be treated as the star of a promotion, what he can not demand is that he is considered among the best fighters [in the world], when for every fight he has all kinds of demands, he wants all kinds of concessions to the opponent. Truly, it is something unfortunate for boxing." " As we all know, he is exercising his right to be considered the [A-side] in his bouts, because boxing is like this, and as long as he stays in control of that situation, to have that promotional advantage... what he is doing is a real mockery for boxing. Because when we talk about real boxers, they do not do that sort of thing." Hunter is not in favor of the catch-weight being imposed on Chavez Jr. - who claimed that Canelo wanted a catch-weight of 164 and they finally agreed on 164.5 after weeks of negotiating the terms.

    Whenever a boxer is forced to drop so many pounds to make weight in a fight, he will pay a price. And from the moment Chavez agreed to fight at that weight, he has been in a precarious situation," Hunter said. "If he is able to reach the weight gradually, without having to lose so many pounds at one time, and manages to recover properly after going on the scale - he may have some chance of winning. And if he manages to get in good physical condition, with enough energy to fight his fight, the fight can be more than interesting. "But whenever the boxer undergoes a significant sacrifice to make weight, when he has to be squeezed, especially as in the case of Chavez who has not fought that often - it doesn't give you any indication of how well Junior will arrive in this fight or what he can offer against Canelo, who will be looking to maximize any advantage, however small it may be, to win the fight."
     
  2. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like how Hunter speaks his mind.
    I remember how he told Canelo right there in the ring to grow a pair and fight Golovkin next.

    Remember how ginger reacted ?

    " yes 160 no problem, in Mexico we dont eff around"

    Only to say after that fight that his body body aint ready for 160 and vacated the Mexico's most beloved belt.

    Went to fight Liam Smith at 154 then jumped straight to 165 lol
     
  3. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    ****, I think I like Virgil Hunter even more now.
     
  4. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Virgil is a likeable trainer. He's just not that good as a trainer.
     
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  5. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I agree but then again,it's Canelo turn to be a the boss and make concessions. He had to do it 2x for his position. Pacquiao only did it once. Mayweather did it once. Marquez did it. Oscar did it, Hagler did it for Ray. And on and on.

    It's Canelo's time until someone STOPS him.
     
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  6. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't know what Canelo is doing that is such a mockery, having non title fights 1lb above your title weight is common, I don't see how 2 JMW's fighting at 155 is a catchweight? Vs Chavez he's moving up 2 divisions so a catchweight makes since there, and Khan moved up one division there is no real difference between 154 and 155 this idea that it is is pretty funny to me
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Hunters well on the money here but be that as it may it's not all that important in the scheme of things as nowadays Canelo isn't a threat to anyone in an actual division,fighting for meaningless trophy belts and arguing over half a pound,
     
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  8. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    He isnt wrong, we all know what game GBP and Saul are playing. He is moving up and down betwee weights as well as creating their own 1 man weight catagory dependant on the opposition and how much of an advantage can be gained on that opponant. On top of the weight thing there are other issues, other demands that either give them an advantage or to deter a potential threat from even sitting down to sign a contract. And im not just meaning GGG here i am meaning any Middleweight thats worth his salt.

    And the fact he is next facing Chavez Jr counts for nothing. He has picked somebody who hasnt seemed fit to fight for a good couple of years, somebody who last time couldnt even make weight in his last outing and is now being asked to weight drain. A focussed and fit Chavez Jr is a very dangerous opponant for Canelo but they have took a gamble that a focussed and fit Chavez Jr dissapeared a while ago.
     
  9. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Khan accepted those terms. Fighters accept terms. In this case Khan did so for a payday. Manny was pretty good at phantom weights as well but we don't go making threads about it. Canelo is the man of the hour. He gave up advantages like so many before him. There's only a guy or two who hasn't yet. Not pointing fingers but Canelo has joined the A side club.
     
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  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    I don't think the Chavez Jr situation is that bad. It's a CW between him and a bigger guy, and kinda reaching to the limit of what Jr should be able to come down to. Chavez weight issues and inactivity make this a very probable Dawson class drainage, but that's a different point for a different discussion.

    What I do think is bad, is that Canelo tried to force his opponents to come down to 155lbs for the 160lbs lineal chaampionship. Basically freezing out real 160 fighters (so all the best condenders). That's making mockery of the sport.
     
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  11. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    yes he is I a gree with virgil. I was a canelo fan years ago when he fought Mayweather/trout/lara but ever since then hes become a joke.
     
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  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    There's nothing wrong with two 154 lbers fighting at 155.

    What is wrong is being a 160lb title holder and expecting 160lb fighters to come down to 155 whilst the title is defended.
     
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  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Stuarty

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    Remember Viva Mexico !!

    Virgil speaks the truth.

    Canelo is only the A side in his own mind!
     
  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    So right here is no place to mention Andre no consessions ward
    And the kovalev decibel
    Why did he not advise khan against the inevitable
    Hunter needs to shut his wisdhpering a55 up
    If he really believes Jacobs beats GGG he needs to stfuab