What did Marciano do right?

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He cut easily, he was easy to hit, he was slow, he was small, and he had no jab among other things claimed by critics on here.

    According to those who argue against Marciano's success outside of his era what attributes did he posses that could be considered a threat? Don't mention easy things like punch, stamina, or chin.
     
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    His biggest asset was being born in 1923!
     
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    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not really, he became eligible for the draft barely 2 months before the United States entered the deadliest war in history. I wouldn't call that an asset.
     
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    LMAO, I was going to say the same thing before clicking on the thread.
     
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    For being a heavyweight champion in the early to mid 50's I would !!!
     
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    I said that in relation to the war. Even for being a heavyweight champ that is not an asset. If Marciano had turned pro at 18 like most fighters back then, then he would have most likely fought a better version of Joe Louis and might even have lost in brutal fashion. When he won the title he only had about 1 or 2 years left that were considered prime so even then age wasn't an asset.
     
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  7. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    The delivery of his punches. He had power we know, but if you cant deliver it doesn`t help you. Rocky had certain moves that his opponents never caught on too. An athletes feel or instinct perhaps. To get in position to land his shots and then pull the trigger. I also don`t think he was slow. He had a quickness when he needed It that served him well.
     
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    **** off size queens.
     
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    What you're describing is far more important than than technique.
    It's awareness.

    Your opponent could be technically gifted, but if you have a feel for where and when to step in, block, throw a punch, etc, it's far better.
     
  10. Fergy

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    He had something no other heavy champ had, the ability to beat every guy in front of him. While some will argue about the quality of the opponents it's still a fact that no boxer or brawler could defeat him. How ever he did it he did it. Luck, timing, performance , perseverance, determination what ever but in over a hundred years no man as managed that. That's what I give him credit for.
     
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    outside the suze cue I don't think he had ay other attributes his incredible heart, will, determination and conditioning is what makes him a great fighter. know one ever treated that belt with as much respect as he did you would have to kill him to get that belt
     
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    D, Marciano on this forum done nothing right, so why bother. You'll be called a fanboy by know nothings.
     
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    I'm convinced he is the most misunderstood champion in HW history.
    1 year ago, the general consensus was based on a Goldman quote from his first time meeting a raw Marciano.

    Honestly it's the reason I sorta go to bat for him on every thread. The consensus is just disproportionately off the mark. To me, it's like seeing everyone praise Ali, Liston, Foreman, Dempsey, Wlad, and all of a sudden saying that Holmes was bad.

    Like wait...huh?
     
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    It wasn't a that deadly war for Americans (relative to elsewhere)

    He's lucky all the talented Europeans got killed or couldn't box anymore for whatever reason.
     
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    Its not about age.. Its about TIMING. He cleaned up on a decaying era of aging men and fighters who weren't indigenous to the division. In most other time periods he wouldn't have had this convenience. Hence being born in 1923 was advantageous..
     
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