*** Kirks ESB Championships 2008 ***

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  1. aillmatic

    aillmatic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I bolded the fights from Quik's list that I would keep, the others I could do without. Just my opinion.

    June 6: Ngoudjo-Mbaye

    June 7: Pavlik-Lockett
    June 7:Cellestino Caballero-Lorenzo Parra .... never heard of Parra.
    June 7: Ponce De Leon-Juan Manuel Lopez
    June 7:Quintana-Williams II
    June 7: Forrest-Mora

    June 12: Edwin Valero-Takehiro Shimada... never heard of Shimada

    June 20: Andre Ward-Jerson Ravelo ... never heard of Ravelo

    June 21: Andre Bero-Miguel Anguel Rodriguez ...this is a Berto showcase bout
    June 21: Giovanni Lorenzo-Raul Marquez
    June 21: Arthur Abraham-Edison Miranda II

    June 25: Julio Diaz-Rolendo Reyes.. never heard of Reyes

    June 26: Lamont Peterson-Henry Bruseles

    June 27: Jorge Rodrigo Barrios-Martin Honorio
    June 27: Abner Mares vs TBA
    June 27: Yuriorkis Gamboa-Jose Rojas
    June 27: Odlainer Solis-Francois Botha

    June 28: John Duddy-TBA
    June 28: Humberto Soto-Francisco Lorenzo
    June 28: Steven Luvano-Mario Santiago
    June 28: David Diaz-Manny Pacquiao

    .. and I would maybe add Amir Kahn vs. Michael Gomez June 21.
    13 fights I like.
     
  2. aillmatic

    aillmatic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I forgot to add... if Abner Mares, and John Duddy have solid opponents, I'd keep them... if they're fighting just some club fighter, then no.

    The fights I left off seem like fights that are just there to showcase the name fighter....just because it's for some ABC belt, or eliminator doesn't make it an even fight.
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    THANK YOU big time for breaking it down for me guys.... quite a few i hadnt herd of before out of those lists (sorry for the ignorance)

    For multiple reasons (im only allowed so many characters per post and already have split it up 3 times, also time, also although it varries from fight to fight i dont want it to get watered down as much if you know what i mean) so for all those reasons i have picked 15 of the 22 or so listed fights and they are as follows

    *IF I MISSED A MAJOR MATCHUP LET ME KNOW :good


    June 6: Ngoudjo-Mbaye

    June 7: Pavlik-Lockett

    June 7:Cellestino Caballero-Lorenzo Parra

    June 7: Ponce De Leon-Juan Manuel Lopez

    June 7:Quintana-Williams II

    June 7: Forrest-Mora

    June 12: Edwin Valero-Takehiro Shimada

    June 20: Andre Ward-Jerson Ravelo

    June 21: Giovanni Lorenzo-Raul Marquez

    June 21: Arthur Abraham-Edison Miranda II

    June 26: Lamont Peterson-Henry Bruseles

    June 27: Ordanie2r Solis-Francois Botha

    June 28: Humberto Soto-Francisco Lorenzo

    June 28: Steven Luvano-Mario Santiago

    June 28: David Diaz-Manny Pacquiao
     
  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Read every word smith.... thank you!!! Something about him always called my name so to speak.... and i highly appreciate the schooling you just gave me :deal
     
  5. aillmatic

    aillmatic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If that's the official list.. put me down for these picks....

    June 6: Ngoudjo-Mbaye ... Ngoudjo by UD

    June 7: Pavlik-Lockett ... Pavlik by KO/TKO

    June 7:Cellestino Caballero-Lorenzo Parra ... Caballero by KO/TKO

    June 7: Ponce De Leon-Juan Manuel Lopez ... Lopez by UD

    June 7:Quintana-Williams II ... Quintana by UD

    June 7: Forrest-Mora ... Forrest by KO/TKO

    June 12: Edwin Valero-Takehiro Shimada ... Valero by KO/TKO
     
  6. El Matador

    El Matador Your Boxing Authority Full Member

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    Good job with the work, Kirk!:good

    BTW, I think you missed me from the "Journeymen" list; I don't remember what my record is, but it's not looking great for El Matador this season.

    Anyway, here are my picks:

    N'Goujdo W12 Mbaye
    Pavlik TKO4 Lockett
    Cabellero TKO12 Parra
    Ponce De Leon KO10 Lopez
    Quintana W12 Williams (Rematch!!! Go Quintana!!!)
    Forest TKO12 Mora
    Valero KO1 Shamada
    Ward W10 Ravelo
    Marquez W12 Lorenzo
    Abraham W12 Miranda (REMATCH!)
    Peterson W12 Bruseles
    Solis TKO10 Botha
    Soto W12 Lorenzo
    Luevano W12 Santiago
    Pacquiao TKO7 Diaz

    :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb
     
  7. TFFP

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    Ngoudjo UD
    Pavlik TKO
    Caballero TKO
    Forrest UD
    Valero TKO
    Ward TKO
    Lorenzo TKO
    Abraham TKO
    Peterson UD
    Solis UD
    Soto TKO
    Luevano UD
    Pacquiao TKO
     
  8. Quik

    Quik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ngoudjo UD
    Pavlik TKO
    Cellestino Caballero UD
    Juan Manuel Lopez UD
    Williams UD (tough one)
    Forrest TKO
    Edwin Valero TKO
    Andre Ward UD
    Giovanni Lorenzo UD
    Lamont Peterson TKO
    Solis UD
    Humberto Soto TKO
    Steven Luvano UD
    Manny Pacquiao UD


    **** it, im not picking on Abraham-Miranda II. Its too close and there's too much factors to consider.
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Kirk plz . . . remove my Valuev pick. I'll put it up once his fight is reconfirmed.

    I'm giving my new rounds of pick for June.

    Thanks :good
     
  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    very good guys...

    pshyco.... ya ill wipe everyones slate clean besides this months picks ;)


    thanks guys!!!
     
  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    wassup bud :good ill get those up there...

    i have to keep you in the club circuit until your record gets better then the lowest journeyman because i ran out of available characters for the post so i had to put some names in the club circuit :patsch which is why i put it if you are 2 fights away from having a .500 record youll be a club fighter...

    but no worries man.... el matador wont be held down for long :bbb :lol: :good
     
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    also a shout out to quick and aillmatic for the list and list infos... much appreciated ;)
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Ngoudjo UD

    Pavlik KO

    Caballero TKO

    Forrest TKO

    Valero TKO

    Ward TKO

    Lorenzo TKO

    Abraham KO

    Peterson TKO

    Solis TKO

    Soto TKO

    Luevano UD

    Pacquiao TKO
     
  14. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    June 6: Ngoudjo-Mbaye - Ngoudjo UD

    June 7: Pavlik-Lockett - Pavlik TKO

    June 7:Cellestino Caballero-Lorenzo Parra - Caballero TKO

    June 7: Ponce De Leon-Juan Manuel Lopez - Lopez UD

    June 7:Quintana-Williams II - Quintana UD

    June 7: Forrest-Mora - Forrest TKO

    June 12: Edwin Valero-Takehiro Shimada - Valero TKO

    June 20: Andre Ward-Jerson Ravelo - Ward TKO

    June 21: Giovanni Lorenzo-Raul Marquez- Lorenzo TKO

    June 21: Arthur Abraham-Edison Miranda II- Abraham UD

    June 26: Lamont Peterson-Henry Bruseles- Peterson UD

    June 27: Ordanie2r Solis-Francois Botha- Solis TKO

    June 28: Humberto Soto-Francisco Lorenzo- Soto TKO

    June 28: Steven Luvano-Mario Santiago- Lueveno UD

    June 28: David Diaz-Manny Pacquiao- Pacquiao TKO
     
  15. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Give me Pavlik by KO and Solis by TKO, thanks kirk. :good

    Oh and Mundine by TKO.