Culcay vs. Andrade this Saturday, in Germany

dinovelvet · Mar 10, 2017

PaddyGarcia said: ↑

Not sure where you're based, but it's on Sky Sports in the UK

Anyways, Andrade should be looking for a stoppage here.
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I found that out last night. never checked SP2

ClassicRon · Mar 10, 2017

Hope Andrade gets a round 1-3 knockout so he could at least get a little more attention. Criminal that someone as talented as him doesn't have more spotlight.

jmashyaka · Mar 11, 2017

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

He is clearly top 15; who shall be ahead of him besides Lara, Alvarez, Trout, Andrade, big Charlo, Baysangurov (if he's still active) Martirosyan, Bundrage, Konecny (if he isn't retired), Molina and perhaps Smith? Even the weaker Charlo and Williams are questionable, let alone the two Frenchmen.

Well Andrade is favourite, but it could be competitive, as Culcay-Keth was an excellent amateur (greater than the Mexican), has therefore well schooled technical skills and is a bit slick (he used to have a bob & wave style/ defence, no double-guard).
Though I'd prefer if the first one fights instead Alvarez or the bigger Charlo, while his management sent even the contract last year too late back, that it had to be cancelled.
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These are the names of the people that I think would beat Culcay at 154.

Andrade, Lara, Charlo, Hurd, Harrison, J-rock, Williams, Smith, Jackson, Nelson, lubin, Deloach, Walker, Soro, martiyosan.

I saw everything I needed to see about Culcay when he struggled severely with Isaac real. That was a shocking performance at that level.

jmashyaka · Mar 11, 2017

ClassicRon said: ↑

Hope Andrade gets a round 1-3 knockout so he could at least get a little more attention. Criminal that someone as talented as him doesn't have more spotlight.
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It's his fault for his talent he is one of the most least active boxers around. He needs to get with Haymon cos his business decisions are all messed up.

raksa · Mar 11, 2017

Has anyone tried FITE.TV? Is this only available in north america? cannot find the cost to Culcay vs. Andrade event.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/03/fite-tv-stream-culcay-vs-andrade-wba-world-title-fight-live-ppv/

jmashyaka · Mar 12, 2017

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

Hurd maybe, isn't Williams the one you named before identical? (or you mean a real hill/ mountain), whatever he has nothing proved excepta china-chin and the draw against some clubboxer makes him to an underdog here, Jackson almost the same (except the draw, but is even less talented), Nelson is more known for his music than his boxing skills and is a third tier boxer (even Rosado has more accomplished), Lubin who :questionmark: (his is barely European level), the next two names have you possible found in your telephone dictionary (they might be local known brawler of your area/ neighbourhood, but outside them are totally unknown), Soro could be/ that would be interesting (competitive) but he lost against Baysangurov clearly.

It is even questionable if Jermell Charlo can win against him without the aid of the judges (as the decision against Martiosyan was one of the worst robberies of 2015). Sometimes you have an off-night, but most of the guys you named are untested (therefore couln't have failed) or didn't come away (behind) when they stepped up. Even Hatley has more achieved than half of the boxers you mentioned; but I just forgot Kirkland (who wouldn't be favoured, as he's not skilled enough and clumsy/ has no defence) who I rank slightly higher.
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Who exactly has culcay beat? I will admit he did way better than I thought he would so I was wrong that Andrade would spank him, however I'm not gunna act like Andrade didn't fight a poor fight, Culcay has beaten noone too.

jmashyaka · Mar 13, 2017

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

Culcy-Keth was amateur world champion and European champion; he dominated undefeated Real who stopped del la Rosa previous. Hogan was also undefeated and not so bad (comparable with your buddy Harrison you mentioned previous or maybe even with Jackson) and Weber.

Both men showed probably the best of their abilities last weekend, while Andrade was very variable and switched even his forhand in the late rounds, but he was tired from round 6 onwards. He just isn't the overskiller (superstar) and was even more overrated than Fortuna or Walters. He already struggled against Martiosyan and was there lucky to get the decision too (was also knocked down in the 1. round). So they are just game and there aren't several levels between them.
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I don't pay too much attention to their amateur records because some translate to pros better. Andrade struggled with Martiroysan whereas Culcay struggled with Pitto and Issac Real, he even lost to pitto.

jmashyaka · Mar 13, 2017

Ra's Al-Ghul said: ↑

But revenged that and the first one was close too (in England would have won this the hometown boxer comfortable). I didn't claim he have to be top 10 yet, but at place 13 or 14 I have him.

By the way that against the Armenian was actual pretty much a draw in my opinion and I had now Culcay-Keth slightly winning (with 2 - 3 points).

While Ishe Smith can be ranked ahead of him, but he wouldn't be favourite here (rather the opposite).
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I wouldn't put ishe smith ahead of Culcay personally.

You seem to value their amateur careers I'm more interested in professional achievements.

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