GGG Jacobs live gate $3.7 million, PPVs 150k

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  1. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not all the money of course, but you're right that neither 50/50 nor 60/40 are realistic.

    From what I see of the Jacobs ppv numbers, seems that the ppv underperformed while the gate significantly overperformed, more or less balancing out.

    So nothing's changed really.
     
  2. kirk

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    Hard for a brand thats a work in progress to sell a $70 ppv against an 8~1 underdog. Imo.

    I was hoping they would do better and kinda thought theyd do around 300k , but this doesn't surprise me.

    Disappointing numbers tho imo.
     
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  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You really like to pick and choose, here are Rick Glaser's Canelo numbers:

    Canelo-Cotto: 650k
    Canelo-Khan: 322k
    Canelo-Smith: 200k

    Either these are rubbish as are his Golovkin numbers, or both are true and Canelo is not much of a draw himself.
     
  4. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    200k was the expectation, seems to have underperformed there, but a good gate + merchandise just makes up for it IMO.

    What's despicable is all the Canelo fans trying to make out that it's a disaster, hoping for low numbers; they clearly don't care about our sport. I never wish Canelo numbers down, the more people are into boxing the better!
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    It's not easy to truly break out, period. There have never usually been more than a few true boxing stars in the sport at any given time. The face of boxing at any given point is usually recognized internationally, historically, but it's extremely difficult to earn a temporary place under that spotlight. Circumstances and luck play a considerable role.
     
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  6. drenlou

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    I agree.. There's a high possibility that the 15 mill offer has shrunk by millions. Bad decision from GGG and his camp TO HOLD out.
     
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  7. sponge

    sponge Active Member Full Member

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    150k is about right, they would still make a modest profit
    2.5m+1.7m = 4.2m


    150k x 60 = 9m
    Live gate 3.7m

    Say 15m rough estimate.
    They will make profit on international broadcast rights...
     
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  8. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those numbers are still pretty good
     
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  9. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Those numbers don't matter, it was a PPV just to make the fight, both guys got paid now off to June opponent for GGG.
    Canelo/Oscar have nothing to do with these numbers.
     
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  10. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cable and satellite providers takes 50% hbo wants their cut and don't forget those $20 rebates
     
  11. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    GGG is the Undisputed king of the middle weight division that alone gives him the right to be atleast entitled to 50%.
    GGG deserves 60 to canelo getting 40 for being the bigger ppv star. Just remember that this is boxing and not a popularity contest. GGG has done the hard work and canelo hasn't even fought a legitimate middleweight. He should be counting his lucky stars that GGG would allow him to even challenge for all the titles.
     
  12. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Correct. Nobody should want GGG ppv's to underperform.

    The poster above is right. The reason this was PPV is down to HBO not having a boxing budget which can pay the purses for a non ppv broadcast.
     
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  13. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That doesn't mean ****. The purses Canelo and GGG would demand for the fight means it needs to be ppv. The fighter that brings all those ppv buys to the table to pay the purses is Canelo. The fighter that will see the fight being held in Vegas and getting the casinos to front the money is Canelo. The fighter that brings the high rollers into the casinos for the weekend is Canelo.

    One can argue GGG is the #1 MW but he wouldn't be the one driving the revenue so everyone gets paid.

    GGG needs the fight more than Canelo.

    What money fights are out there for GGG?
     
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  14. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately that is not how it works. Titles dont dictate purses, draw does. If GGG was the reigning, undisputed, world famous champion bringing in all the money and fans, then he would dictate the purses. GGG, in his 2 stand alone PPVs, cant crack 150k in buys. His gate number increased, but was easily doubled by the Khan fight which pulled in 7 million.

    If GGG wants to fight Canelo, he must accept whatever they offer. Canelo gave him the WBC belt, and he suffered scorn and ridicule for it. But if Golovkin wants that 8 figure payday, then he must accept the terms. The end.
     
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  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    GG was not the draw in this ppv. People still didn't know who Jacobs and GG were, but they somehow knew that this would be a good fight, plus with Chocolatito on the undercard the fight sold. Beating Lemieux and beating Quillin got both guys a lil exposure after the vicious Lemieux ko so both can thank Lemieux lol.

    GG is not entitled to 50% with Canelo either, and that's just based on numbers, but... If Canelo does not negotiate with GG and offers the "flat rate fee" of 15 mil dollars, I'm going to **** on Canelo more than ever before. TBH i don't think that it's Canelo. I think that Dlh has been a hinderance since this whole charade began.
     
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