Is Vasyl Lomachenko on his way to having the greatest résumé of all time?

Lomachenko is a once a lifetime type talent that is quite literally chasing all the big boys. How many of you ****s said he wasn't gonna fight Walters, or that the axe man was too big too black too slick and the rest of that billfish? His resume shits on the rest of the boxing world and he does things you expect to see in the matrix movies. He is TBE as far as I am concerned.

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

Short answer no.
But he could have the best resume of his generation. Lot of talent in and around his weight and his resume has 0 filler. He could have a hof resume by like his 15th fight lol

 

It's possible. He is young and he does not have any step up fights. He's just facing the best he can get that early in his career. Let's say he's active for 6-7 years more. That means he can fight up to 21 or more fighters who actually have a "name".

 

What does their 7th fights have to do with anything? That wasn't the
question. The question was, "Is Loma on his way to having the greatest
resume of all time" As it stands great resumes have great names as opposition,
well known names. For you to discount everyone I said shows you have a clear bias,
whether it's US or otherwise everyone I mentioned are a part of boxing lore and
are considered great, my God they're all HOFers or future HOFers, my point was
that Loma will not have the type of names on his resume to get there.

As for what he's accomplished in 7 fights, it's amazing but without the names, no.

 

What's the best promoter in your eyes in today's game

 

HOFer???? Pah! Doesnt mean ****! Just a couple of years ago I watched Hollyfield fight a certain Bobby Cyzz,an American no-hoper with a poor fight record.Hollyfield struggled with him and got point victory over that guy.I then thought if all those so-called all times greats from the USA had had competition from the countries of the former soviet union during those years most of them would not be called HOFer today.The pro market was predominantly american in the 50,60,70,80 and even the early 90ies.A close world where an American champ could call himself world champ because there was no competition from other countries apart from a handful of countries like Mexico or some western european count
ries.
There were so many great Cuban,Russian,Ukrainian,Eastern German,and so on fighters in the those years they for sure would have beaten black and blue most so called american world champs and all times greats.
And even today the pro circus is mostly dominated by american money.
Average fighters like Lacy who got beaten black and blue and stopped by his Kazahk opponent in his last amateur fight then went on to be called the next big thing in the pro circus.I love pro boxinging but i know that it is a circus where politics,the right passport,a powerful American,German or British promoter,a backing tv channel,careful matchmaking and money are the decisive factors.
Biased? Pah! Only a clueless American fight fan who has no idea that money is the name of this game and that there is a world outside his little hamlet which produces countless outstanding fighters who just cant speak english,have no western passport and no access to the world wide pro market.
To be fair great fighters like Ali deserve to be called all time greats and would have been no underdog in any era.
However,a guy like Tapia is an hall of famer ,too.A dime a dozen he would have been if he had fought in the former soviet union in the 50-90.Nothing special at all.He is hall of famer because he is american and fought in an era where there was little competion outside the states and mexico.
The hall of fame would be overcrowded with Russian fighters if they had been able to compete in the paid ranks in those years.
Sure,money and movies and world wide tv is dominated by the americans but you tend to forget that someone like Loma is the best amateur of all times.No american amateur cant or couldnt hold a candle to him.
You also tend to forget that a fighter like Wlad Klischko or Pacman may be little known in the states but they are household names in a lot of countries and his fights are shown in almost every corner of this planet.
Floyd Mayweather is little known in comparison with the two above mentioned fighters outside the states.In terms of global impact -for example-the fight between Wlad and Joshua is big and will be broadcast in over 160 countries.
GGG vs Jacobs? Totally insignificant in comparison.
You get my point.It is 100 times tougher to be a recognized world champ in the paid ranks if you are not american and not american based(well,maybe not for mexicans or other latinos).
Someone like Saitov was a far better fighter than someone like Barrera or Morales could ever been.

 

In the modern era it will be too hard for him to jack up a resume like some of the ATG resumes.

 

By the time Loma was 27 he was 3-1 with a loss to Orlando Salido. By the time Frazier was 27 he put Muhammad Ali on his ass. So no Loma isn't off to a faster start than these ATG's.

 

He's good, but how's he a 'once in a lifetime type talent' when there's literally three or four guys right now who are as good as he is? Top ten of his era wouldn't be hyperbole.

 

Haha! Good point,but Frazier hadn been the best amateur fighter of all times who had won two olympic gold medals and countless other medals at the amteurs.
His call to fame are his fights with Ali.
Loma can certainly do better than Frazier at the pros,and at the amateurs Loma was a giant and Frazier a little totally insignificant dwarf.
Admittingly,Loma needs some truly good opponents at the pro to be able to shine like a sun.

 

I don't know, I'd rather put Ali down on that canvas hard and win a UD than be an Olympic gold medalist.

 

This was so long I'm not even gonna touch on every point. I don't dispute Loma's amateur status at all, you're
making points that aren't necessary to make. Also, throwing out names that "you" feel are a dime a dozen and shouldn't be HOF is meaningless, because the fact remains, "They are". There's quite a few I don't think belong, but again, they're there so there's no point arguing. Finally, you criticize the American standard, but what does every single foreigner (not from America) say? "My dream has always been to fight in America", so whether you like it or
not American recognition is still the standard. Ultimately, everything you said actually proves the point I was
trying to make......smh

 

Who are these guys that are as good as he is? I first learned of Lomachenko from his amateur tapes about 10 years ago and since then I've been captivated. What he does in the ring, no other boxer can do, and it's the fluidity, the ring generalship, the foot work, the timing, he is like a fish swimming. Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen a better pure boxer before .

 

Frazier won a gold medal in the '64 Olympics.