In how many other decades could Marciano retire 49-0

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Have you ever seen Ted Lowry fight?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Thinking about it, we don’t need to find a particularly big window for him.

    He was fighting the best contenders in the world for a period of about four years, and fighting legitimately world class opposition for about five.

    Before that period it doesn’t really matter who is around, because he won’t be fighting the best out there.

    There might be quite a few five year windows where he could pull it off.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    What reason do you have for thinking that he lost these fights?

    Can you show me your score cards?
     
  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not possible in 30, 40, 60, 70, 90, 00.

    like has been said rocky nearly lost in his own decade, which was a strange one because small and old atg's were dominating hw in a way not seen b4 or since.
     
  5. janitor

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    OK, let’s play with the 1970s.

    What if he started fighting the ranked contenders in 1975, picking them carefully, and then challenged a dilapidated Ali for the title in 1976.

    Defences against people like Norton, Young, and Spinks then follow.

    1975 Muhammad Ali, Champion


    1. Ken Norton
    2. Jimmy Young
    3. Joe Frazier
    4. George Foreman
    5. Ron Lyle
    6. Earnie Shavers
    7. Duane Bobick
    8. Joe Bugner
    9. Chuck Wepner
    10. Randy Neumann
    1976 Muhammad Ali, Champion


    1. George Foreman
    2. Ken Norton
    3. Jimmy Young
    4. Duane Bobick
    5. Ron Lyle
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Howard Smith
    8. Johnny Boudreaux
    9. Stan Ward
    10. Joe Bugner
    1977 Muhammad Ali, Champion


    1. Ken Norton
    2. Jimmy Young
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Ron Lyle
    5. Duane Bobick
    6. Earnie Shavers
    7. Kallie Knoetze
    8. Alfredo Evangelista
    9. Leon Spinks
    10. Gerrie Coetzee
    1978 Muhammad Ali, Champion


    1. Larry Holmes
    2. Ken Norton
    3. Leon Spinks
    4. Ron Lyle
    5. Jimmy Young
    6. Kallie Knoetze
    7. Alfredo Evangelista
    8. Gerrie Coetzee
    9. Ossie Ocasio
    10. Domingo D'Elia
    1979 Title Vacant

    1. Larry Holmes
    2. John Tate
    3. Gerrie Coetzee
    4. Mike Weaver
    5. Earnie Shavers
    6. Leroy Jones
    7. Lorenzo Zanon
    8. Alfredo Evangelista
    9. Gerry Cooney
    10. Scott LeDoux
     
  6. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there's nothing to play. i gave an honest answer. the way you laid it out holmes beats him.

    if the question was 'what decade could marciano reach 49-0 regardless of ranking?' or 'what decade could rocky duck and luck his way into a belt?' then obviously all of them including the foreseeable future.

    bear in mind i left out the current decade.
     
  7. janitor

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    You mean it would be Holmes or bust prety much.
     
  8. kingfisher3

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    nah, norton's a live dog and frazier and foreman were still floating about early. even lyle and shavers pose questions rocky never got a chance to answer.

    i guess saying it's not possible in all those decades wasn't true, but i think it's highly unlikely.

    i think rocky beats spinks, but not easily and that would have to actually happen too
     
  9. RockyJim

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    I dunno....but I know he did retire on April 27, 1956 at 49-0 with 43 KO's...can't say the same for any other heavyweight...
     
  10. adokei

    adokei Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this!
    thank you!
     
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  11. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Nah but his name sounds corny, and he's from the 50's where the camera was black and white, so he must've been corny and amateurish.

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  12. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    lol