Will there ever be a new undisputed HW champion who is under 6ft2?

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  1. Nay_Sayer

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    Yes. It's only a matter of time. The Superheavys are an anomaly..
     
  2. ClassicRon

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    It's possible but if a guy is under 6'2 is dominating the heavyweight division, it would have to be another Tyson or someone really ferocious who could be the face of boxing.
     
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    I think a better question is, will we ever have another undisputed heavyweight champion regardless of height, given that we now have 4 "major" titles, and the fact that the politics of the sport and the corruption of the sanctioning bodies don't typically create opportunities for unifying all 4 major titles.
     
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  4. Absolutely!

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    If we think about the big men of today the situation doesn't look so far fetched. Joshua is the closest to a top superheayweight and he's still relatively untested at this juncture. From what we've seen he's not impossible to outbox and might suffer from stamina problems that a smaller fighter could exploit down the stretch. The Wlad fight will tell us a bit more about where he stands, but at this moment I don't see it being such a leap of faith to believe a fighter like Usyk could potentially outpoint him.

    Parker's already struggled against shorter fighters in Takam and Ruiz, and while I had him legitimately winning both fights, he's clearly not as head and shoulders above the division as he initially seemed.

    Wilder is awful and was getting outboxed by Szpilka. Plus he isn't even a SHW. Ludicrous to think he couldn't be beaten by a fighter of Usyk's calibre.

    That leaves Wlad, who's close to retirement, and Fury who might never box again. Unless Joshua turns out to be the man, the division's not nearly as locked down by the big men as we might assume.
     
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    Ike wasnt under 6'2 and Tua isnt exactly hard to find at 5'10 stand in your face fighter.
     
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    I believe Tony 'Bomber' Bellew is 6"2
     
  7. Absolutely!

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    Tua wasn't comparable to Tyson in any way whatsoever barring chin and punching power. He was flat footed, easy to hit and an extremely limited boxer. A fighter like Byrd had a lot more success against SHW with his head movement and feint and parry style. If he had a bit more punching power he'd have been a very hard fighter for anyone to handle.
     
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    6'3 definitely not below 6'2
     
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    unless they are 5foot wide, with a 2foot wide head, iron chinned, huge lungs and a huge punch.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Maybe, but he'll have to be at least 215 pounds. And he will need to be a durable puncher.
     
  11. reptilian777

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    The really tall heavies are too unathletic there dominance won't last long
     
  12. Drachenorden

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    It is possible with the right style. Explosive fighter, roided to the gills, heart of a lion, skin that doesn't cut easily, short reach, head movement, broad shoulders, strong legs, strong neck, strong chin, fast on his feet and brilliant inside fighting. Basically just slide past the slow SHW jab and proceed to maul with bodyshots, low blows, elbows and headbutts. Break the body, open the cuts and don't stop. Basically some sort of Mike Tyson but with more inside fighting and a really really dirty fighter. I can see many SHWs lost when a short fighter would get past their jab and straight right and no one knows how to fight inside anyway. If a short fighter would have some unreal caveman strength to power out of the clinches and hugging to unleash his devastating inside fighting he could do it.
     
  13. DaveKrieg

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    There were tons of 6'6 guys back in the 70's and 80's despite fake TV boxing experts pretending they didn't exist until recently. The best height for a heavyweight in my opinion is between 6'3 and 6'6. But slightly shorter could work. Holyfield is listed at 6'2 but in reality he was 6'1. He became undisputed heavyweight champion. He was able to beat 6'5 guys like Bowe and in even 6'5 Lewis who he almost beat in their second fight.

    None of the current champions are nearly as good at Lewis was at his peak. So the answer is yes a sub 6'2 guy could and will become undisputed heavyweight champion again. Hell is Amir Mansour would of turned pro at a younger age he would do it.
     
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    It could happen again but it would take either a lack of talent among big heavies or someone like Tyson to come along again who had phenomenal speed, power and technique in his prime. Even then they'll likely have a shortish reign like Frazier and Tyson.
     
  15. Jackomano

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    This. Too many short heavies show up fat or have a very predictable gameplan. If Povetkin would've taken more risks in his fight with Wlad the fight might have ended differently. These big heavies can be timed by smaller guys.

    Tyson was very good at this until he fell in love with his power.
    I remember Tommy Brooks getting pissed at Tyson for not setting up his shots against Botha and making an easy fight difficult. As soon as Tyson listened and set up his shot Botha was timed and knocked out.

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