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Like I said, this ain't about Robinson, because when you start comparing previous fighters with today's fighters then you have to take into account more than just the skills of that fighter. You also have to take into account the conditions and circumstances in which they fought under. The equipment, training methods etc. If you take a RR from the beginning of his career and give him all the benefits of today's advanced training and equipment, then you would be looking at a true monster man. On the other hand, if you reversed the situation and started GGG or Jacobs in RR era I will wager that RR would knock their asses out.

 

This right here. Boxing is so desperate right now, they're hyping a guy who can't even sell 300k against his best opponent. But yeah you're post is on point. These guys know G is a hypejob.

 

you whine about people not supporting fighters that lose, or have close fights witch I do think is unfair but you then go onto say Jake lamotta and Robinson would be journeymen by todays standards because they have loses wtf
if Thurman fought at a pace of a fight per week or every to weeks he would have some losses on that record

 

Anyone can lose, it's boxing. Why does it matter what happened years ago? Pacquiao lost to Torrecampo and Singsurat. It's ridiculous how people dismiss fighters who don't pad their record to 30-0. Lemieux was a game opponent against GGG.

 

Are you on drugs?

He's faced all his mandatories and fought the who's who of the division. Guys will rather just give him their belts than fight him. He's facing the only other belt holder next, after having beaten the consensus #2 at 160 and a hell of a fighter in the form of Jacobs.

GTFOH clown.

 

I asked who has Giftlovkin *beaten*? Yes, he won the beauty contest but he didn't win the fight. His body language prior to the decision being read says it all.

 

Blame the guys who **** all over GG's opponents (primarily GG's own fans) before the fight, and then blow them up after the win. If they showed more respect before the fight then you wouldn't have to allude to GG as an example.

 

Some are idiots, granted. But I think the consensus among the GGGoons is that Jacobs was for real, and that he had a real chance of beating Golovkin. I thought that he would come out swinging and try to starch Golovkin early.

In a way going the distance and holding his own was more impressive than catching Golovkin cold and KOing him. I have a feeling that Jacobs may have made it difficult for himself to get good fights. He's become the definition of high risk and low reward.

 

How many PPV you do has nothing to do with how good a fighter you are.

 

He meant if he had the same record. If you believe srr fought in a "great era" you're exactly the kid the op is questioning. Seriously, 90% of those "prize" fighters couldn't be the 5th sparring partner for any journeyman in modern times.

Yap, 2 packs of smokes a day, no such thing as training camps. Hell, srr was way before his time. We have .or one who try claiming JL as a ducking atg, guy was a ****ing brawler with wicked limited, if any true talent

 

golovkin won clearly, punches landed proves this beyond any doubt, your in a state of denial to continue arguing otherwise:

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Then you realize Wlad spent 10 years fighting bums like Ray Austin, Derrick Jefferson, Alex Leapai, Mariuz Wach, Jean Marc Mormeck ( A blown up cruiserweight) washed up Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragamov ( Who best wins were a washed up Holyfield and a past his prime fat Shannon Briggs) Francesco Pianeta, Kubrat Pulev, Tony Thompson, blown up cruiserweight David Haye, blown up cruiserweight Chris Byrd ( I bring up these 2 because people usually have something negative to say about Michael Moorer because he didn't start at heavyweight). But anyway Wlad is and was a joke. Only his most delusional little European fans actually think he was anything more than a PED user who was lucky to fight in a weak era.

Sugar Ray Robinson was only good in his watered down era. A bunch of slow plodding no talent Italian boxers. If he had to face guys like Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Julian Jackson, Mike McCallum he would have a **** poor record.

GGG is a joke, another joke European fighter. The same stupid fans who said Jacobs was a glass chin bum are now trying to build up Jacobs and talk about how great he is.

Some people get called out for their flaws an some people don't. Ali, Tyson, Marciano, Wlad Klistchko, Sugar Ray Robinson, GGG, fans are annoying and will make every excuse for them .

 

Mainly because it is classed as blasphemy to negate anything fighters have done badly in years gone by.
Saying joe louis would struggle with say,razor ruddock or david tua,or ggg would beat la motta etc,ppl will laugh and point out their greatness,and the fact louis was beaten by schmelling,was lucky to beat conn or wallcot,or la motta lost to poor opposition.its not judged,its excused,or the fact that 75% of srr s fights wouldnt be sanctioned today,and if they were they would get slated to the hilt,yet fighters of today get slagged if they dont test themselves and instead of getting commended for fighting fights they might lose then do lose,they get laughed at,whilst fighters who fight safe get credit for not losing.look at floyd and canello.their fight selections would be laughed at in years gone by,khan,many more,best thing is to laugh off the bull**** of people who are clueless to the situation.
Chuvallo and quarry were immense opposition,yet tucker or mccall arent in the same league.
Best thing is to judge yourself,its opinion anyway

 

Mayweather really started this thing unfortunately, it was pretty much the core aspect of his self promotion. I mean, more power to him by having an unbeaten record, it's impressive and all but now you have people base everything off of that one loss which is BS.

I mean take a look at say Lomachenko, he's gonna carry that Salido L for the rest of his career and even if he goes on to do really great things people will still come back with "Hah but he lost to Salido - some Mexican brawler.."

 

You mean like YOU ???
I don't know any fan outside the trolls who claimed DJ wasn't a threat. Just how terrible are our fans at determining the most obvious aspects of our sport, DJ is a legit fighter, with legit skills. Was fully expected to win gold (huge trials upset) and seen as the best amateur in our sport years running.

The trolls that claim ggg is just a good fighter are starting to make me wonder if they believe any nonsense they write. Ggg is an ELITE fighter, against DJ he showed tremendous talent, both offensively and defensively. I find it too hard to be believe we have fans that can't pick up ELITE talent, at all obviously.

Has to be just hardcore trolling