Where can we rate Ingemar Johansson?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What basis is there for rating Ingo's right hand ,"perhaps the best in the history of the sport ? " He dropped a glass jawed champion several times, and had to hit Machen with everything including the kitchen sink before stopping him.

    Ingo creeps into the Rings 100 greatest punchers at 99, about right.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    What else did he have?

    If his right hand wasn't good, then how exactly did he get anywhere?
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I didn't say it wasnt good,I'm saying you are wildly overating it
    He had a pawing jab that was used as a range finder.

    What did he achieve for you to rate him so highly as a puncher?
    He flat out ducked an agreed return with Machen ,by passed:
    Hunter
    Valdes
    Pastrano
    Folley
    Baker
    Satterfield
    Jackson
    Moore
    Carter
    Miteff
    McMurtry
    Harris
    Cleroux
    He has a decent ko over Cooper and that's it!

    A better right hand than:
    Baer
    Louis
    Lewis
    Marciano
    Langford
    Sullivan
    Dempsey
    Godfrey
    Shavers
    Foreman
    Lyle
    Tyson
    Bruno
    ??????
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coetzee is who he reminded me of too! He might be able to upset a few fighters if he puts the right hand on them
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Rahman and a McCall had better resumes and knocking out Lewis is a whole lot better than knocking out Patterson.
     
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  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    but....he had the Hammer of Thor in his possession!

    The man certainly enjoyed his short time as HW champ. I've heard he was all over those
    Swedish girls instead of training for Patterson II.
     
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  7. thesnowman22

    thesnowman22 Member Full Member

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    Ingo is no where NEAR top 30. Insane. As a lineal HW champ very near the bottom.
     
  8. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ingemar will always be remember for his thrilling trilogy with Patterson. Belongs
    up there with Ali vs Frazier , Zale vs Graziano, Andries vs Harding . Rate him
    between 40 to 50.
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His last fight with Brian London, he ends up winning by decision with the bell saving Ingo with him flat on his back.

    But in the early 60's as Heavyweight Challenger & Hvywt Champion, with a super good-looking Swedish GF tagging along wherever he goes as piping material, then he cares little where his final Hvywt rank is. Go Ingo !
     
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  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Don't forget the strawberry shortcake.
     
  11. gustavo

    gustavo New Member Full Member

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    God he's fun to watch though! Nothing like those guys who are all punch and no chin.
    For what it's worth, the Swedes named him #2 all time national sportsman of the 20th century. After one B. Borg
     
  12. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Two very good wins with blow outs over Machen and Patterson.
    Solid win over Cooper.
    Not much else.

    Short career.

    I think he usually gets rated fairly.
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Just happened to pick up one of my old Ring magazines and found a fight writeup suggesting that only crooked officiating spared Ingo from suffering a one-round tko loss to journeyman Wim Snoek. Was this a well-known controversy? Did it have any effect on his career (or legacy)?
     
  14. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, who can blame him? I mean, you couldn't exactly call him a handsome guy but when you suddenly become the heavyweight champion of the world....:number_one: