Duva: Request for 'Neutral' Judges for Ward-Kovalev Denied by Ward

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  1. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    how about saying/doing "we put in a request for, what we consider, neutral judges...it was denied...we are holding off on signing for this fight until that simple request is made"......but nope....classic duva spin....these guys are soft, salty, and primed to get beaten again...this isnt a good look for them
     
  2. The Shockmaster

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    "hey guys...kathy duva from main events here...so we knew the fight would be in vegas ok...we asked if we could get gennady golovkin, putin and yakov smirnov to judge the fight...it was denied.....we didnt feel comfortable fighting in vegas with NSAC appointed judges....we had no problem signing the contract though.....alright...just letting you guys know...u guys remember me right? kathy duva! i represent sullivan barrera too! remember me right guys"?!?!
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You need to stop with the trolling, you've been banned numerous times for it.
     
  4. The Shockmaster

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    LOL...the irony

    "hey guys its me kathy duva...just letting you know beforehand this time we dont like the judges ....dont know who they are but already its not fair and we dont like it....we didnt say anything before the fight last time but ...like...we didnt like it then either....and we lost and stuff...it wasnt fair so we just wanna make our excuse beforehand this time....we couldnt knock out a 50 year old bernard hopkins so this fight is probably going to the cards....you can trust me! i represent sullivan barrera"!!!!
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You've been reported.

    I'll let the mods take care of you from here.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

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    Sounds like Duva laying the groundwork for preemptive excuses?

    :smoking:
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    I have been telling everyone for years, it's not SOG Ward, It's SOB Ward.............there should be one judge from Russia, one from America and one from a neutral country, perhaps Canada?................the referee should also be neutral, but we all know that Vegas judges are crooked as hell, so are the referees................It's impossible for Kovalev to get a decision in Vegas with SOB's personal judges and referee and do not forget the criminal boxing commission. SOB Knows this. If Kovalev knocks SOB down in every round, Ward's judges will still give him the decision...................the crowd might boo, but the judges do not care $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ This has been this way for SOB's entire career. In the tournament, Ward had all the fights in his home town, he picked the judges, others had to travel from across the ocean.................SOB was allowed to elbow, headbutt, hold, throw low blows, anything during that fight. Kessler lost the fight by an illegal intentional headbutt, this headbutt was obvious, it came from across the ring, even the commentators mentioned it. And yes, SOB picked the judges and referee, you can say the boxing commission, but who owns the boxing commission? If he did not get his way, he would not fight.................now all Ward has to do is run, hold, headbutt, just be standing at the end of the 12th round and he will win, he does not have to fight at all, not even throw one punch...............this is getting like WWE.................plus, Kovalev is the draw, not SOB, SOB is boring a prima donna.............
     
  8. qwertyblahblah

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    When the fight was announced and Kovalev's team said there were demands of Ward's they had to accept I posted this is what I suspected it was. Of course Ward isn't choosing or suggesting judges, and he and his team aren't doing anything wrong. And it makes sense, as if he accepted the demand for neutral judges he'd be giving the impression that he agrees he didn't deserve to win. But there still should be neutral judges after the first decision! Will the Nevada commission on its own do the right thing and make sure there are three non-American judges?
     
  9. The Shockmaster

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    sounds good champ! lemme know how that goes!

    before I go...

    "hey guys its me Kathy duva...remember me from such easy negotiations like Stevenson/kovalev...and barrera/ward? yeah I'm still the same ole me....remember how I said that dealing with ward to make the first fight was real smooth and easy? well now I know why right? his American, handpicked, judges....im not gonna fall for that again.....or am I"?
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    No, do you know Vegas boxing history? There should be one judges from Russia, one from America and one from a neutral country such as Canada, plus a neutral referee...................but SOB always demands everything be on his own terms, everything to his advantage.........
     
  11. The Shockmaster

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    they couldn't knock out 50 year old Hopkins...they had ward right where they wanted him and not only could they not put him away....they faded.......preemptive excuses is all it is.....it wont be a good look for them should they lose again

    this stuff annoys me...I do really like kovalev.....I don't care if he says hes gonna end wards career...calls him "son of kovalev"....or whatever...that stuff is natural and good.....but I hate this BS from duva....it wreaks of sadness

    ward isn't some major star....kovalev is more fan friendly....hbo would prefer kovalev to win...it isn't like roc nation is some boxing powerhouse.....what advantage is to anyone for ward to win? if it was just straight up good ole Americanism then why wouldn't they rob golovkin when they had a real good chance? yes I know golovkin isn't Russian but a Jacobs win would have accomplished the same thing.....
     
  12. liger1992

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    Just hire the best judges, I don't care where they are from.

    The idea that a judge being from outside the US or Russia guarantees more neutrality than one from either of those countries is absurd.
     
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  13. jquest

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    Kovalev in my opinion was robbed in the first fight. But I doubt that having 'neutral' judges for this fight would make any difference as this time I do not believe the fight will be close. Also it's not about judges being paid off but the way in which the judging is conducted on American soil.
     
  14. Payback87

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    Former HBO Boxing commentator Larry Merchant saw Kovalev as the winner of the fight against Ward. Merchant called it a hometown decision.

    “I thought Kovalev clearly won the fight,” said Merchant. “I thought Kovalev build up such a lead in the first half of the fight, including a knockdown, unless Ward did something, some serious danger, he would have to win the rest of the rounds and I didn’t think he did.

    Did he put a hurt on Kovalev? Did he throw more than one punch at a time in the fight? I thought the other guy put more hurt on him, knocked him down and beat him. A hometown decision, Oceans 11 inside the ring. That’s how Ward always fights. Some people call him the ‘Anaconda,’” said Merchant about Ward.


    Enough said i think.Also im more concerned about the referee than judges,simply because the Son of Judges is dirty fighter. [So yeh he is Son of the Referee also then].

    Also i dont wanna turn this into an offtopic but do u remember when Wlad fought Povetkin in Russia and everybody was saying that judges and the referee will rob Wlad and he hugged Povetkin for 12 rounds after that ? He was allowed to clinch and no warning,no point deduction,nothing.And that was when Russia was in war with Ukraine dont forget it also.
     
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  15. qwertyblahblah

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    True. Russian judges paid by an American promoter for a fight in the US could just as easily hand a hometown decision to the American. And that's where the worry is in the rematch: that Kovalev is given it if it's close again, like Barrera-Morales 2 (I scored all three for MAB, but the second was really close). But assigning neutral judges is still good, even if it's only about perception, or preventing an obvious bias.