Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs the 1980s Welterweight champs.

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  1. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably been done before but what the hell ....

    How does Floyd fare against the following 10 title holders from the 1980s?

    Pipino Cuevas
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Tommy Hearns
    Roberto Duran
    Don Curry
    Milton McCrory
    Lloyd Honeyghan
    Mark Breland
    Marlon Starling
    Simon Brown
     
  2. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haven't watched enough of some of these guys to make a prediction but as far as Cuevas, Hearns, Leonard and Duran go... I think Mayweather could out box Cuevas handily. Hearns I see being a tough match up for Mayweather. I think Hearns could use his jab to score points and offset Mayweather while his right would keep Floyd at bay. Don't know if Hearns can knock him out but I think he wins a decision. Leonard and Mayweather is a tough one to picture I'd go with Leonard as I consider him to be the best welterweight. I think he'd have the skills to go along with physical advantages to beat Floyd. Duran and Mayweather I think would make for a great fight. Duran would push the pace and I think Mayweather would be forced to stand his ground like Leonard at times and exchange back and forth with Duran. I think they'd have a very good fight over the distance and it would be interesting how Floyd deals with Duran's pressure over 15.
     
  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe Leonard,Hearns, and possibly Duran (if ready to fight) destroy him. Same with Curry, and possibly Cuevas. He didn't possess the fire power to keep those fighters honest. Honeyhan he could lose to. Starling was in was inconsistent. So he could beat him, same with Brown, and Starling. The only sure win would be Breland. A great amateur but a terrible pro. (Compared to his amateur history) Mccory would be tough for him because of his height.
     
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  4. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pipino Cuevas - Cuevas mid rounds K.O.
    Sugar Ray Leonard - Leonard UD or late rounds K.O.
    Tommy Hearns - Hearns by early to mid round stoppage.
    Roberto Duran - Duran UD.
    Don Curry - Curry UD or late K.O.
    Milton McCrory - Mayweather UD.
    Lloyd Honeyghan - Mayweather UD.
    Mark Breland - Breland SD.
    Marlon Starling - Starling SD.
    Simon Brown - Brown SD or late stoppage.
     
  5. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Breland was a bit of an enigma as a pro fighter As an amateur, it seems everyone was singing his praises. Manny Steward saying how well he had done in sparring with the likes of Hearns and McCrory at the Kronk gym before the 84 Olympics. Even though he won the Olympic title as expected, he didn't actually look that impressive. Perhaps it was due to the pressure that came with the high expectations but maybe that was a early indication of how his pro career would go as people were going to expect so much of him when he turned pro? As it goes, he didn't have that bad a pro career. He won, lost and regained the title, made a number of defences and had some good performances like in the second fight with Starling and the title defence against a admittedly ring worn Honeyghan but his career kinda petered out in the end after losing the title for the second time against Aaron Davis despite winning his last 5 fights though they were fairly low profile.

    Still, at his best,with his height, around 6'2 1/2 and reach and decent right hand, I can see him giving Mayweather a few problems and it may not be as clear cut as it looks on paper for Floyd. A close points victory for Breland would not be that big a shock as some might think.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I wouldn't favor Floyd to beat Hearns. He'd need to take away Hearns' jab to have a chance.

    I slightly favor Floyd at his best (Marquez version) over Leonard, unpopular as it may be. I think Leonard's inferior defense, telegraphed right hand, and poorer ring IQ would give enough ground for Floyd to take a points win off counter punching and foot work/angles.

    Everyone else would be an underdog. By power of numbers, Floyd might lose once or twice.

    I don't see McCroy, Cuevas (see Hatton fight), Brown, or Starling having much chance
     
  7. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Benitez was left off the List for some reason. Motivated Wilfred might be the one that really makes Floyd look "in over his head".
     
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  8. Hannibal Barca

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    Hearns by late stoppage or decision.
    Duran and Leonard by close decision, but this is in no way as comfortable a pick as Hearns.
    Mayweather over the rest.
     
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  9. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wanted to add him on but since this was about 80s welterweight champs, he unfortunately lost his title at the end of 79 to Leonard and then went up in weight to Jr.middleweight where he became the youngest three weight world champion at the age of 22 in 1981.

    He was such a outstanding fighter back then and to have accomplished so much at such a young age, maybe I should have tried to sneak him in on the list.. :watchout:
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Pretty much how I see it.
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you a Floyd fan?

    Duran beats Floyd up.Pace way too fast for Floyd.

    Starling outhustles Floyd.Benitez UD Floyd.Fights with Cuevas and and the Cobra may go either way.Floyd beats Breland and Brown in my view.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Mayweather beat the second best 147 pound fighter of his era easily and w an age disadvantage.

    He beat the best 147 pound fighter of the era before his relatively easily w a size disadvantage.

    He beat the only two guys to hold a deserved win over either of these guys at 147 relatively easily. They were pfp number 3 and and 2 when the fights happened.

    He easily beat the most accomplished 154 pound fighter of the era in front of his.

    He won every fight he had on the judges cards and press row.

    He never had to stage a comeback late in a fight or even fully exert himself. We don't even know what Mayweather would look like if he had to pull something off late. He pulled this off for 15 years.

    It's bizarre to me that people are willing to pick flash in he pan types over him.

    Hearns and Leonard are understandable. It takes a few if's to put faith in Duran. Benitez just wouldn't do it. He was inferior at the same game.
     
  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd just simply never has performed at the level he'd need against Duran ,Leonard ,Hearns. He loses all those fights badly The other guys? I like Curry and maybe Starling. Cuevas? the pre Hearns Cuevas was a beast ! Mayweather would probably survive the onslaught and Pipino runs out of gas .But, anyone ever see Floyd in with a bonebreaker like Pipino?
     
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  14. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Floyd goes to the ropes and fights Cuevas there (like Floyd did against Jose Luis Castillo), that is all she wrote for Floyd. The ten-count won't be necessary.
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

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    The Cuevas fight is very tricky.If Floyd fights like he did against Castillo, Cuevas stops him.Floyd would have to fight very careful.
     
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