Has any heavyweight besides AJ achieved so much in only 19 fights?

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  1. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They never had a ATG fighting the best fight of their life informs of them though.
     
  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right. He was old against Jennings and Fury, then he travelled to wonderland, found the fountain of youth and became 25 year old again.

    Btw, KO4 over 38 year old Holmes>TKO11 over 41 year old Wlad
     
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  3. James Smith

    James Smith Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he was just going through the motions with Jennings and Fury.

    Wlad not taking much punishment through his career, still has all the speed etc of a 20 year old version of himself. He had tons of motivation, and out more in to his training than ever before, turned back the clock and pulled of the best performance of his career by far. If this was the Wlady from years ago it would not of went two rounds.
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, going through the motions of getting old.

    Not taking punishment my ass. He'd been KOd twice, been down a dozen times, suffered from cuts many times and many injuries(suffered from them 3 times in the last 2 years during training camps). Noone, literally noone can have the same speed in their 40s that they had in thier 20s. Literaly noone, you can't possibly be dumb enough to believe that. And Wlad always trains hard and comes to ring %100 prepared, always.

    Please, remove your head from your ass and stop being such an idiotic fanboy if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise you'll just be considered a troll.

    If you want to make excuses for your boy's struggles, at least say that he was green. To claim a fighter was at his absoulute physical best at 41 is beyond moronic.
     
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  5. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? He's been KO'ed three times, knocked down a good number of times on top of that.

    Now we move on from exaggerations to truly moronic statements. Have you watched the younger Wlad?

    So now, in your opinion it's not only Wlad's best performance, which is far from true, but it's the best "by far". I have no words for this.

    In terms of English grammar, it should be "... would not have went ..." In terms of the content, that's absolutely laughable. Prime Wlad does not last two rounds while 41-yr old Wlad with 68 fights worth of wear and tear lasted 11?

    This beats any of the Golovkin or Canelo super-fans for levels of exaggeration.
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Forgive me if it has already been said as I havent read the other posts

    I guess its debatable.
    L Spinks at 6-0-1 won the WBA and WBC HW titles against a HW legend in Ali who was 55-2 at the time a reigning champ and on a run of 10 defences
     
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  7. suggs33

    suggs33 New Member Full Member

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    I don't think AJ has a problem with stamina per se he wouldn't have been so strong in the 11th round if that was the case. He had a novice meltdown in the 5th recklessly chasing a finish and emptying the tank against a still very dangerous opponent. All the problems AJ had in the fight were due to that error.

    If AJ has any intelligence he won't make that mistake again. When talking about his chin a bit of perspective is needed. Pretty much all the HW greats have been on the deck, most have been knocked out at some point or other.
    AJ got got caught with a great shot from an ATG whilst already going through a rough spell in the fight, and he managed to weather it and ended up as strong in the 11th as he was at the first bell.
     
  8. Todd498

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    Lol! The Joshua's fanboys are some of THE WORST and they're proving it already.
     
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  9. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    LooooL!!! I'm sure you scored your boy 'Joshies' fights in the Olympics ALL in favor of him right??

    :risas3:
     
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  10. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How is that being outclassed,you Teddy Atlas made a great point re this fight,he didn't carried calling it the best ever but he did say this fight harkened by to the old days when great fights were done often,he also said because of so many non fights where the guys never even looked like hurting each other it's like folk have forgot what boxing is about.

    To say he was outclassed because he was knocked is ridiculous talk as this is heavyweight boxing and the other guy is allowed to hit you know?what would you prefer a Tyson furey v Wlad snore fest or two guys trying to knock each other out,he was knocked down and got back up and won so please tell me how that is being outclassed.

    I just give props to both guys and also props to AJ and Hearn for not hiding.
     
  11. mthez

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    Nah a 20 year old Tyson vs a 20 year old AJ. :nonono
     
  12. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Joshua has never been the best at anything. The only reason he has any belts is because they was taken from Tyson Fury.

    Klitschko couldnt lay a finger on Fury with his hands behind his back. It was life and death AJ vs Klit.

    Hell even 41 Klit was the quicker man than Joshua. Tyson Fury will really school his slow, stiff bodybulder ass very badly.
     
  13. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    only because it suits your agenda.
     
  14. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    Foreman had very few fights when he TKO2 a bigger Russian in 1968 for the gold. In Mexico City no less. He was a kid thug that got steered to Job Corps and became George Foreman. I dunno, but I think the second coming of George would have dominated after Lennox hung em' up. Not that impressed with AJ nor anybody after Vitali.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Jeffries, incredibly more, but also 100 years ago.

    However, it is significant that there aren't too many HW names out there to throw around in this discussion. Also, worth noting, all is based on one fight against a 41 year old.