Was it a big mistake by Dr W Klitschko to let Joshua in his training camp to learn everything...

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Was this Dr Wladimir Kltschko's gravest mistake in being too kind for his own good and allowing a future enemy to take refuge in his camp to learn everything from him that he himself had worked decades to learn?

    You can see Joshua bowed down on his knees soaking in all the knowledge from the Dr, who in his attempt to educate him and teach him all the tricks of the trade, never holds back in revealing his secrets.


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  2. Kevin Valencia

    Kevin Valencia Member banned Full Member

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    No. Joshua won because he had youth on his side, and Wlad lost because despite being one of the best HWs today, is not a spring chicken and his body did not hold up.
     
  3. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie

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    No. Holyfield had the same situation when he invited young Vitali and Wlad to his camp in 1998 (though they never met in the ring later).

    Ali - Larry Holmes is the 2nd example.

    It's not an unusual situation when elite boxer invites top prospect in his camp.
     
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  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was a smarter move for Wlad to bring Joshua in. He was accurate in what he determined Joshua's vulnerabilities to be from those sparring sessions.
     
  5. JoffJoff

    JoffJoff Regular Junkie Full Member

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    Can't stop laughing at "Dr." :loel:I wonder if the Klitschkos got their certificates at the same institution as Dr. Dre.

    If I was Wlad I would constantly correct people who called me Mr. Klitschko :nonono "Actually, it's Doctor"

    If there is a medical emergency on a plane or in a restaurant and they appeal for a doctor does Wlad come running to the rescue and launch straight into a violent heimlich manoeuvre? :meparto:
     
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  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope. Actually both Wlad and Vitali also got their PHD title in Germany and therefore in the EU. They can legally carry it there. That's not a matter of simply filing paperwork but you have to find a University who checks your PHD thesis for quality and consistency and then you have to 'defend' it in front of German professors of the subject. Which both K brothers did sometime around 2002/2003 as I recall.
     
  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Multi lingual with PHD's. Not some dope dealing street punks that wandered into a gym to sell gear.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Not nearly as big a mistake as Wlad fighting cautiously after the AJ KD, had he pressed the pace, or even flurried, he could have at the very least forced a British stoppage.
     
  9. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Blame Johnathan Banks for that, who instructed Wlad to box instead of letting his hands go.
     
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  10. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad was just doing what he felt like he needed to do as a long standing champion and role model of the sport. He cares greatly about his legacy but he has also invested a lot into growing the sport by teaching prospects and getting youth into gyms. I don't think Wlad has any problem with Joshua being his successor so long as Joshua earns it by beating Wlad in his best form.
     
  11. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So am I mistaken when I saw AJ actually start to slip and duck a lot of Wlads punches after that KD for a few rounds and even did a little yapping in Wlad's ear to even throw him off even more, only to recover and come back for a KO victory? Let me know. I don't want to appear to biased.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Pianeta spent more time in Wlads camp than Joshua. How did that work out for him?
     
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  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What is your point? He learnt the majority of his craft inside Dr Wlad's academy.
     
  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you have a PhD you are automatically given the title of "Doctor" before you name.

    The word "Doctor" is not neccesarily a medical term and is widely used in lots of scientific disciplines.
     
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  15. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ....and Wilder too.

    Still didnt stop him throwing punches like he is fighting off mosquitos at a summer BBQ......
     
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