If Arum makes a fall meeting between Pac and Crawford....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jacques81, May 21, 2017.


Who takes this p4p fight?

  1. Pac KO

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  2. Pac Decision

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  3. Bud KO

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    22.2%
  4. Bud decision

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    38.9%
  1. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lay it all out, who do you have in this fight?

    There's a lot of hype surrounding Crawford ATM, but who really wins this one?

    Crawford has definitive advantages in dimensions and youth , but let's not write off the old man Pac yet.

    Pac still has the extraordinary speed of hand/foot, a probable power advantage, and ring experience.

    They have similarities in awkwardness in the ring and using angles with punches etc..

    So does Bud overwhelm Pac or does Pac shock and awe him with speed, power and experience?
     
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just goes to show how good Pac was that even now it would be a pickem when way past his prime against a very very good fighter
     
  3. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    i'll go with Pac decision Jacques
     
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  4. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Bud is good but Pac by decision
     
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  5. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone in the other thread saying he takes Pac out. Hmmm. I disagree a bit
     
  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    This match-up is kinda unfair on Pac. At this stage of Manny's career, Bud would be way too much for him...
     
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  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac needs to take best comers or retire though
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    And I don't doubt his cojones to do so. But how does he beat Bud? Manny has not stopped anyone since 2009 - or more specifically when he stopped strength and conditioning training with Alex Ariza - so the evidence is, his only route to victory would be by points. Watching clips of him on the pads and bag, it's clear he's lost s step or three, and Crawford is in his prime. I just can't see Manny circa 2017 or 2018 having enough left in the tank to take on the best in the division and win over 12 rounds. He's not even got a puncher's chance. Not this decade's version...
     
  9. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you're saying a Pac from a few years ago wins easily but this one stands no chance,none
     
  10. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Well I didn't say 'easily' - you used that word not me - but I favour a prime Pac over Bud.

    Seriously dude, if you're gonna try and reconstruct someone's PoV to make the case opposite to the one which you think you can identify and tacitly make your own by proxy (an age-old forum tactic), you're gonna have to do better than try put words in my mouth. Or find a horse you can jockey...
     
  11. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Even a year ago I would have favored PAC. But he's got to be completely shot by now.
     
  12. mgmvegas

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    I cant help but think that if arum puts this fight together he knows 100% that crawford
    will win...he is sacrificing his old cash cow for the new one. he wouldn't risk crawford losing
    or it damages his long term revenue stream.

    I suppose the only caveat here being that if pac was to win would it ligitimise a floyd rematch ?