What is the most obvious case of one fighter ducking another that you've seen?

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  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    It went both ways my friend! Pac is as much at fault for the fight not happening earlier as Mayweather. Here's an article that proves as much! A little side note. I'm not putting this article up to call Manny a cheat, just referencing statements he and his camp made about why the fight did not happen sooner because of his fear of needles.
    Pac-man’s Powerups? Some Curious Coincidences about Manny Pacquiao
    by James Harrison

    Floyd Mayweather insists that Manny Pacquiao is pretending to agree to the Olympic style drug testing necessary for their fight. We can’t prove or disprove this based on the facts available.

    What is available is expert opinion, stating that the amount of blood required is between a teaspoon and a small tube. Pacquiao and his camp have various reasons on why the blood sample hasn’t been produced.

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    Photo: Chris Farina/ Top Rank

    Pacquiao told ESPN, “Giving blood makes me feel weak,” despite boxing analyst Teddy Atlas’ quoting medical experts saying,“[giving blood]…does not weaken you.”

    Pacquiao now attributes his loss to Erik Morales to blood testing, but this reason was not mentioned to Larry Merchant in the post-fight interview.

    Sparring partner Amir Khan stated that “Manny is scared of needles,” in a report by East Side Boxing. Yet Pacquiao has a tattoo of boxing gloves.

    Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach explains it as if Pacquiao’s queasy when it comes to losing blood. Roach told ESPN, “He doesn’t like it.” However, that queasiness didn’t stop Pacquiao when he lost blood during his fights.

    Pacquiao and company asked Mayweather’s camp, “What would be the penalty if a fighter tested positive?” and “If a fighter tested positive could we keep it a secret for the sake of boxing?” according to an ESPN report by Teddy Atlas. Teddy affirmed he trusts his source.

    Pacquiao avoided Olympic style drug testing by not competing in the Olympics. He’s dodged paternity testing from an admitted affair. 15rounds.comreported that his mistress Joanna Rose Bacosa, was an alleged prostitute, yet Pacquiao offered to pay for raising the child without testing to see if it was his. It seems that Pacquiao’s ability to avoid punches in the ring is comparable to his ability to stay clear of testing outside of it.

    Dan Rafael has been ESPN’s expert when it comes to contract negotiations between Mayweather and Pacquiao. He haas outlined how Olympic style blood testing has been Mayweather’s top priority.

    Travis Tygart is the CEO of the United States Anti Doping Agency. He told USA Today, “There’s a number of potent performance-enhancing drugs you can only find in blood.” These performance-enhancing drugs include HGH. The Nevada State Athletic Commission requires mixed martial artist and boxers to submit urine samples, but not blood.
    HGH, which can’t be detected in urinalysis, allows the body to gain more stamina (for longer and more strenuous workouts), recover quicker from workouts, and acquire more body mass. Many bodybuilders use it to add weight without losing muscle mass to compete in levels with heavier guys.

    Pacquiao moved through eight weight-classes despite the fact that he also was conditioning for stamina. Conditioning includes running, sparring, and weight-shedding due to lost calories. Pacquiao has gained weight and still proves to be bigger, stronger, and faster than his opposition.

    Pacquiao’s camp includes; Freddie Roach who trained a fighter, James Toney, who tested positive for steroids twice; Amir Khan, whose claims of Pacquiao’s needle-fear are discredited by physical evidence; and Pacquiao, who is constantly willing to take tests that have limitations, and unwilling to adhere to testing guidelines that are capable of finding the truth.

    A training camp that expressed concerns about confidentiality and repercussions of positive steroid testing links all of these men.

    Manny Pacquiao is endeared to his fans as the Pac-man; the little character from the classic arcade game who turned the table on his enemies once he consumed his power-ups.



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  2. Whitey182

    Whitey182 'Yer big lummox' Full Member

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    So his reason for pulling out - his uncle was on his death bed - was bull****? The uncle who died a couple days later?

    There are reasons to dig Fury out but that isn't one of them. And in fairness, he was coming off the back of three consecutive pull-outs by opponents himself.
     
  3. Hayemakers

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    Mike Tyson ducking old Foreman.
     
  4. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Very harsh. I think when you've had an ATG career, beaten every man you've faced, won your last fight despite it being clearly apparent you're not who you once were, when the lack of motivation shows up in short-cutting training and being out of shape (fat, actually) and you're 38-years-old, you earn the right to leave boxing on your own terms. For every great fighter, there's always the next cab on the rank, waiting to take your name and never quick to point out how faded you are if they win. And if they don't beat you, another cab pulls up. And so on until you walk right into a legacy-harming loss, sponsored by Old Father Time.

    Had Lewis fought on but didn't rematch Vitali, then that's a different story, but he walked away from millions of dollars too, when he hung up his gloves. Lewis ducking a rematch by retiring is the hollow rhetoric of the TKO6 revisionist historians. He was done, it's as simple as that.
     
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    hatton ran as far and as fast as he could to avoid his domestic rival witter for years.
     
  6. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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    Wlad ducking Briggs even though the man went to ask him in person like thousand times.
     
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    Golovkin just ducked Saunders and a Jacobs rematch. Hilarious you have Andre Ward in there.. Everybody knows GGG shamefully ducked Ward.