In hindsight does mcalls ko of Lewis rate higher than Douglas S ko of tyson?

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  1. Ragamuffin

    Ragamuffin Active Member Full Member

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    The KO suffered by Mike was a massive upset. The loss Lewis avenged was much more forgettable.
     
  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson went on to crush contenders for more than 10 years. Only one man would beat him for the next 12. It's not like he turned out to be a flash in the pan.

    I don't know if any fighter in history has been seen as invincible as Tyson was before the bell rung. Douglas came out and outclassed him. Nothing like it in the sports history.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Oh he was no flash in the pan that I'll definitely say. I followed him from the tillis fight right up to mcbride. I had the books, videos and magazines you name it. I know exactly what impact he had. I'm looking at this from a non fan point of view I suppose. Which fighter had longentivity, who beat more of his generation, who had staying power. That's Lewis with out a doubt. Who looked the more reliable fighter. Who would crumble in a war. Lewis showed us despite rahman that he could do all that, and sorry to say but tyson didn't.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson stayed at the top for longer than Lewis and I wouldn't be surprised if he beat more contenders. Don't think Lewis cleaned out any generation as thoroughly as Tyson cleaned out the 80's crop. Definitely not more thoroughly.
     
  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I think your mistaken on tyson being at the top longer. He reigned from 86 to 90. Then briefly 96. Lewis was champ from 93 to, 94 then 97 to 01. Then 02 to 04.
     
  6. richdanahuff

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  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.

    Douglas thorougly dominated Tyson over the long haul. McCall landed a 1 in 50 home run shot.
     
  8. Twisted_Metal

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    No, far from it. Apart from beating Ruddock, Lewis hasnt really beat any formidable fighter at that point.

    In comparison, Tyson was beating anybody before Douglas fight, literally. That includes guys who beat Douglas like Tucker and Ferguson. Douglas beat an older Berbick only by decision while Tyson beat Berbick under 2 rounds.
    Holmes was never stopped before and after Tyson fight. Tucker and Spinks were both came to Tyson fight with zero loss.

    Tyson beat anyone in his path either by KO or dominant one-sided decision. So Douglas beating him definetely a MUCH bigger upset.

    The difference between the two however, Lewis got rematch he wanted against Rachman and Mccall but Douglas never want to fight Tyson for second time. Holyfield gave Tyson rematch, Tyson gave Ruddock rematch but Douglas never want to fight Mike another time because he knows that would tarnish his Tokyo 1990 history.

    Lewis needs to wait few years for rematch with Mccall but eventually happened. Tyson came out from prison and Douglas was still active fighter but ever wonder why they never face each other again? In late 90's Douglas was beaten silly by Savarese and a year later Tyson annihilated Savarese in few seconds! They should have meet again at least around that period.
     
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  9. Twisted_Metal

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    Yea, the fact Lewis would suffered similar KO some years later proof that kind of KO punch could happen at any time to anyone.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If only caliber of opponent during z win mattered zen not, but yes if considering zar Tyson KOd Douglas b4 Douglas benefitted from Tyson receiving a fast count, while receing a slow count himself.
    Ez opowzd 2z ebav, Lewis did not iven KDd McCall, so McCall's per4manc woz flawless.
    Zis iz y i care bows ebaut Quality of opozicion, end ebaut quality of per4manc bows during z taim of z f8.
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I meant "at the top" as among the top contenders.

    And Lewis was only title holder before beating Holy. Not champion.
     
  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Do you mean unified champion with all the belts or lineal, which he got by beating spinks?
     
  13. Bokaj

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    As for when Tyson became champion? For a comparison with Lewis it would be lineal, since Lennox both was lineal and unified champ after he beat Holy.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Tyson was a better fighter 1990 than Lewis was in 1995, and Douglas won in more impressive fashion.

    That's all that needs to be said, really.
     
  15. Fergy

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    Well not to split hairs but tyson became unified champion with all the belts in 87 and 88 the lineal champ beating spinks. By early 90 he'd lost so that s just two and a half years. Lewis won the lineal from briggs in 98 I believe, the unified belts in 99. He retired in 04. So not by much but a few more years. But like I mentioned before I'm a big tyson fan so I'm not ripping him.