Im sorry but if GGG beats Canelo no way is he p4p #1

I agree it is tough to call as he would have a larger following after Canelo and deserve to be considered amongst the top 3 but in terms of skills I think Crawford and Lomachenko are closer to No1 than any other fighter. Ward is top 5, he is crafty but I don't think he has the actual skills to fight like Lomachenko and Crawford do.

 

It's funny as I didn't think you were Shockmaster straight away as I thought you were making plenty of sense. Then the above agenda driven post.

Cotto is relevant despite the fact he would have been an easy win. He put himself in the firing line by winning the lineal title and not vacating it immediately.

Zbik and Sturm wins would have accelerated his career considerably at the time they were mooted. As a relative unknown how the hell was he supposed to get the biggest fights when he couldn't even secure a showdown with the bigger names from the country that he was operating out of represented by his own promoter?

BJS went on record saying he didn't want any, Taylor got locked up, AA moved up, his dad died in the Lee build up, Korobov got upset, PQ didn't want anything to do with Korobov let alone GGG and Pirog got injured. None of that is controversial. So the list provided was vastly different to how you've described it.

Chavez and Froch were big money fights in which he could test the water. I don't believe he would of gone back to 160 if he had looked great at 168 against those guys. If he looked a lesser force at SMW you best believe he would of scuttled back to 160 with no intention of facing Ward.

 

Where are you GGG haters getting this from? I'm a GGG fan and I don't think he's #1 with a Can Yellow win, because Can Yellow is over rated.

 

Of course I've seen the posts unfairly slating Ward much like I've seen people slating GGG unfairly. It is what it is.

168 wise if he scored lucrative fights against JCC and Froch it would be impossible to defend him not making a Ward fight but that's not what happened.

As for Taylor, if you don't think including the IBF title holder in Golovkin's division is worth mentioning well, that's on you. Most fans agree that unifying belts is the way to establish supremacy and JT had a major belt bringing him back in from the cold. That fight would have been arguably more relevant than Ward's defence against a drained Dawson who had looked bad for a while coming in and achieved nothing at the weight.

 

I agree, not #1 but it should silence any detractors

 

Golovkin picks up an A-list win, the one he has not gotten yet, if he beats Canelo. It would be a very big win. He has the size and maybe Canelo goes on to be mediocre or worse at 160, sure, but this will still be Golovkins best win. Canelo has achieved quite a bit already and has great form. This is the fight Golovkin has long been waiting for.

 

Its a great win and puts him at #2 imo, Wards resume is much better overall, Kovalev froch and kessler are all huge win's, GGG has zero big win's so far and canelo would be the first. GGG's best win is jacobs and that's more or less the equivalent of when ward beat Arthur Abraham.

 

why would anyone want Shockmasters respect?

 

How is this troll still posting ??

 

There was nothing controversial about Ward-Kovalev. The rematch was billed "No excuses", remember. Those complaining about the fight are those unhappy because their desired outcome did not come into fruition.

 

So when did Brook win a title above Welterweight?