Anybody crying robbery for Horn/Pacquaio needs to re-evaluate their eyes.

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  1. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fight was a draw or 115-113 Horn. You have to be generous to give Pac more than a round of 2 in the first six. He should have put Horn out in the 10th, but didn't have the firepower to, and after that it was a gutcheck, and Manny don't have it anymore.

    That's not to take away from Horn. He completely (with the exception of round 9) controlled the pace of the fight. He didn't let Pac-Man breathe and was hurting him with body work, and his 1-1 (shift)-2 landed damn near every time he threw it. Props to Horn, although I don't think he's an upper echelon WW.

    As for Manny, he either need to commit to boxing fully or call it quits. Not too long ago fought a better, bigger, more awkward version of Jeff Horn called Margarito, and turned him into a cyclops. You can tell his legs have gone a little bit, and his overall speed has nose dived after the third Bradley fight. Manny needs to get his mind right if he wants to keep fighting. I'm sure a Toradol shot wouldn't hurt either. What y'all think?
     
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  2. tealt

    tealt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This fight reminds me a little bit of the reaction of the GGG Jacobs fight. It tends to be a "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" type of thing. Maybe its just me or I don't have a love hate relation ship with fighters, but my opinion doesn't change with how the scorecards fall because in the end if there is not knockout boxing to me seems to align with scoring that is like gymnastics or figure skating. I want to see Jeff Horn fight someone else past the top 10 welterweights to see how good he really his.
     
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  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Pac, but he was barely throwing any punches. Horn was missing a lot of shots, but he had Pac backing up most of the fight, which doesn't look good to judges. Horn was head butting and laying all of his weight down on Pac and got away with other stuff, but Pac has seen it all before and should've dealt with it. Pac coasted too much in the fight and Horn's team took advantage.
     
  4. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't know.

    I thought it was a poor decision. Fan or not, I usually have a certain feeling when the scores are being read as to whether it was close or not. Ward-Kovalev I got that feeling. I did not get that feeling with Golovkin-Jacobs because I thought Golovkin won by a few rounds + KD. I thought Pac won by a fair margin especially when I heard 117-111. I was shocked Horn won.

    Not looking to argue, just thought Horn was very ineffective and the fight was fixed like numerous others.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Hear hear! Down with groupthink!
     
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  6. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I scored it to Pac 115-113. Happy with that, a draw or 115-113 Horn. Wasn't a robbery.
     
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  7. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yerp, it's like Roach and co had no B gameplan, or really an A game plan. Like they watched no tape of Horn. Then you add in Roach's comments of camp not going well about 6 weeks ago. Sh1t Pac beat Hatton, who WAS Jeff Horn on steroids after he smoked crack.

    As we saw in Ward/Kov 2, if you think someone fighting dirty, don't look to the ref.........foul em back or end up losing.
     
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  8. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still love that book. How'd you score the fight Butt?
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    116-112 Hornet
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seems to me with Horn, ppl are deciding on their own what metrics to score by. Rewarding garbage aggression, penalizing for clean punching, rewarding dirty tactics, and most obvious penalizing Pac for being old.
     
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  11. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    It's pretty simple. Jeff Horn was supposed to be an exhibition match, stay busy fight, tune-up, and gauge (to see where Pac was at his age) for either Mikey Garcia or Terence Crawford in the fall. So when Horn wasn't dead by Round 3 and was actually competitive, he was handsomely compensated for his Herculean efforts.

    I hate Teddy Atlas, but he was right, you don't get credit for trying!

    Horn showed Pac no respect. Nor did the referee or the judges.

    :tiburon:
     
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  12. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or awarding things like Ring Generalship. Garbage aggression? That's hilarious Pac only fought the way he wanted in one or two rounds. What was your scorecard?
     
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  13. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    We get that Pac is old and it shows. But he clearly won.
    8-4 or 7-5 if you are generous to Horn. Most of the press row had pacman won.
     
  14. Windrunner07

    Windrunner07 Active Member Full Member

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    If this is a robbery then what about Kovalev Ward 1? Will they check them scores again yeah?
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    116-112 Horn, good post, I agree.
     
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