Gervonta Davis is Starting to Really Grind My Gears

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  1. UkGuy

    UkGuy New Member Full Member

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    Very disappointing to see that, I was a fan
     
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  2. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    You also picked Russell Jr and Walters to knock out Lomachenko, so nobody is surprised that you would pick Davis against him. Too bad Loma proves you wrong every time.

    Davis is the next Adrien Broner in the making. Mark my words.
     
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  3. Low-tech

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    Explain what tools he has and how he lands his power? The most powerful puncher lomachenko faced was Walters and he couldn't land a glove on him. He got tagged a few times by marriaga because he had no respect for his power.
    Lomachenko almost always halves his opponents average punch per round output. He changes the way a fighter normally fights his fight. Marriaga's career average punches per round was 72. He averaged just 35 punches per round against loma. In the last two rounds he out landed marriaga 80-10. These numbers are unheard of in world title fights. In other words lomachenko took marriaga's tools off him and threw them in the trash.
    Loma did the same to Walters and Sosa and he would do the same to Davis.
     
  4. Cap10Kirk

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    I agree with this sentiment. Baseball players get paid. Basketball players get paid. Top soccer players get paid. Football players... Hockey... etc. None of those other sports pose the risk of DEATH like boxing.

    Fight for glory!! To hell with your bank account. To hell with your family. To hell with your love ones. In fact, make the PROMOTERS rich. To hell with your future.

    Yet there are fans who don't comprehend the years of blood, sweat and tears it takes to make it to the highest levels of boxing. And sacrifice. There's lots and lots of sacrifice to become even a good amateur!! I'm involve in amateur boxing and I see it everyday.

    The way the system is set up, elite young boxers should position themselves make as much money as possible. As soon as possible. Boxing is 80% business. Don't blame the fighters for trying to achieve the American dream. Blame the system.
     
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  5. Low-tech

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    It's a sport. We are the paying public so if I see someone holding a belt hostage and and fighting soft touches to build his bank balance then I lose respect and he will damage his legacy.
    Fair play to him. I can totally understand why he's doing it.

    I won't be tuning in to watch him fight bums though.
     
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  6. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah, KiwiMan is one of the best/most level headed posters here. Surprised to see him booted.
     
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  7. Cap10Kirk

    Cap10Kirk Active Member Full Member

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    I would never knock a fan for being a fan. And supporting their guy (or girl).

    In other sports, losses DOES NOT affect the athlete's salary. In boxing, it does. It's a sport to you. It's all business to boxers.

    One other thing. You can play sports. YOU CAN'T PLAY BOXING.
     
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  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    1. You're supporting his own financial ambition which has left the likes of Rigo and Loma on the sidelines with no one to fight them. You're an enabler who's partially responsible for ruining the sport, carry on enjoying bum killers.

    2. He would be boxing for tuppence if he was mediocre anyway - it's not like he became a boxer ONLY because he wanted money - it's the only damn thing he's good at and was put into it as a kid. You've got to be Zelenoff level weird to say 'I want to make money, therefore I'm going to be a boxer and get smashed in the face for a living'. Too small to have an impact on any other sport, the MF'er can't even string a sentence he's so dumb so doesn't have a career in the traditional professions.

    3. Being the best is not an indication of the hard work you put in. Some people put in their hard work and get less out of it. Take me for example, education is easy for me compared to others. I continue to get the highest grades and I don't even work as hard as others who aren't as naturally intelligent/adept.

    Exactly, you refuted your own point man..good amateurs don't even get paid but they still strive to be good.
    Gervonta's bum life hasn't even seen purses of $300k up until his last few fights, he's never had money before now he has enough money to actually live comfortably, so don't buy into their rhetoric.

    4. I blame the fighters, too. I have higher standards and don't give respect out for no reason.

    Your problem is that you listen to Mayweather fans ideas of how things should be. Their IQ is genuinely around 85-90.
     
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  9. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Bum life? The kid is 22, without the adavantage of a long amateur career like Loma or Rigo. He's beaten 2 undefeated fighters in his last 2 fights, the first of whom he was an underdog against, the second in his own backyard. You're just using any possible excuse to hate on Davis here, it's pretty pathetic. 'Left Loma and Rigo on the sidelines with no one to fight them'... I mean seriously, I get you are a huge Loma fanboy but please try and retain some semblance of rationale.
     
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  10. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I think you're not understanding my position. Gervonta is grinding my gears BECAUSE HE HAS A BELT AND IS IMPLYING HE WILL BE HOLDING IT HOSTAGE. As a champion, you MUST BE WILLING TO TAKE ON ALL BELTHOLDERS, NOT JUST CORRALES OR BERCHELT BUT ALSO LOMACHENKO. This is the warriors code.
    He is getting in the way of REAL MENS dreams of unification.

    I would be a big fan of Gervonta and even delete this thread if he just simply vacated his belt. But he is keeping me hating him, I HATE YOU FAT GERVONTA - because of his cowardly comments and holding the belt hostage.
     
  11. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The fight will happen. You are getting yourself worked up over things he hasn't even done yet, save your bitching for when/if he actually ducks the top fights. Actions speak louder than words, and in his first defense Davis fought an undefeated prospect in his backyard. Yet you insist on calling him a coward over a single, meaningless tweet. You're reaching.
     
  12. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    No. For a champion, he is unequivocally a flat out major
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    because he hasn't possessed the intention to fight the other champions immediately/the very best fighters in the division. Only for that reason.
    His age means nothing, he's 22, many were world champions at 22. He should've vacated. He's disrespecting the sport and what it means to be a champion. I don't respect that.
    I was a fan when he took on Pedraza so I gave him props - one thing I'm not is inconsistent. I'm no dumbass.

    He therefore IS ducking the main fights right now - actions DO speak louder than words. He's turning to mandatories in a new weight class, those whom someone like Lomachenko beats one handed, whilst toying on them start to finish and not even caring to enact his gameplan much. I'm not ignorant of the era they're currently fighting in.
     
  13. IKSAB

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    You're letting your fanboyism cloud your better judgement. Any rational boxing fan would think it fair Gervonta get a bit more seasoning before taking on a veteran like Loma, world champ or not. You expect him to fight Loma in his first few defenses, but few world champs have attempted to unify so soon after becoming champion.
     
  14. Cap10Kirk

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    1. All professional athletes have financial ambitions. Period. You're deluding yourself if you think these athletes are playing for the "love of the game". ESPECIALLY in boxing where those athletes basically get pimped by the promoters. Don't blame me for what's happening to Rigo and others. Blame the unregulated nature of Boxing. Blame the greed of promoters.

    2. Agreed. The most lucrative profession this little guy can do is boxing. Doctor? No... Lawyer? Hell no... Yet, the one profession this little guy can make money in (according to you), you begrudge him for trying to maximize his earnings. Boxing is a business. That's the reality of the sport. Davis might not be the brightest guy in the world, but he understands that.

    3. I can't speak on your profession. It seems that you have a real gift or talent where you don't have to work as hard as others in your field. God bless.

    In Boxing? To be elite? Hard work is a key ingredient. Along with talent. Along with having a great support system and team behind you. Along with having a road map to success. Which, it seems, Davis has.

    Journeymen boxers fight for MONEY. Journeymen boxers (bums to you) do not fight for glory. There is no glory for them. They hope to get a $20,000 check for a nights work. Journeymen have no leverage. They gladly get paid whatever scraps the promoters throw their way. Elite young fighters have some leverage. Again, don't blame me, blame the system.

    4. Fighters are trying to make a living the best way they can, in a business where they have very little leverage. In a business that has no safety net like health care. No 401k or pension. In a business that can harm them both physically and mentally, especially, as they get older.

    As a fan, you want to see the best fights. I understand this. But understand the realities of the sport.

    You should be above dissing Mayweather fans or any fans for that matter. I don't understand why people go out of their way to trash each other on this board. *****s... *******s... Fanboys... Racists... Butthurt... Jeez people get a grip. We can all disagree without being disagreeable. I guess that's just the realities of message boards.
     
  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I agree actually, BUT if he's a world champ, HE MUST fight all of the belt holders and not be adverse to fighting any. I seriously HATE boxing fans like you. HATE.