Is Tomasz Adamek HOF worthy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by UnleashtheFURY, Aug 13, 2017.


Is Goral worthy of HOF induction?

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  2. No

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    But you admit - based on existing standards, or the lack thereof - Adamek belongs?
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Excellent post. But on your final note, I agree that worthiness isn't necessarily an issue, but building on that, I do believe he will get in.
     
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  3. PolishNavy

    PolishNavy Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Has anyone ever won the LH, Cruiser and HW titles? I don't think so. Adamek was a Vitali win away. Ya he lost that fight but didnt Vitali win every round he ever fought just about?
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Apart from Sanders, Lewis, Byrd and Chisora when he was over 40... He's probably won just about every round of his career, and even against those guys he won more than he lost.
     
  5. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Adamek was a good fighter and was a champion or top contender in three different divisions, he had a good career.

    In theory he wouldn't be in the hall of fame, I think he falls short of what a hall of fame fighter should be.

    Based on the current standards of who gets into the hall of fame though I think you can make a strong case for Adamek getting in.
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Twenty wrongs don't make a right man. :lol: Personally, I'm against inducting any more run of the mill world class operators like this, AND I'd send Gatti et al packing.

    That said, under the abysmally low standards of the Boxing HoF, Adamek should be a shoe-in
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Funny that you'll get a good number saying yes here but would say no to Chad Dawson. Sometimes popularity or respect counts more than merit. The HOF even claims so. There are worse in. But I'd say no to Adamek.
     
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  8. andrewa1

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    For a natural lhw cw, he had a great hw career. He was arguably the highest ranking hw outside of the K's at the time Vitali beat him. I think prime hw Adamek beats prime hw Haye.
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    That's my greater point. Try to ignore what YOUR standards are for a HOF caliber boxer. I say reserve those for the term ATG - your personal preference. Because whatever you or I or anyone else thinks the standards should be for the IBHOF, they have their own set of standards, along with their own set of inconsistencies.

    But on the whole, if you compete in 3 divisions, having won titles in two, with at least 1 legit win over a top 10 guy in another, well above his natural weight - that's more than most people who ever laced up the gloves can say.

    Personally, I think Adamek had much more to gain in sense of "legacy" had he remained a cruiserweight, where I thought he was very talented, and physically very well suited for. The step to HW, even before he made it, was clearly a step too far in my eyes. But even as a heavyweight, he did more than I was expecting.

    Back to topic, given the standard the IBHOF tends to use, I imagine Adamek will get inducted sooner or later.

    The IBHOF, unfortunately, isn't a real a museum in the sense of the Baseball Hall of Fame. By comparison, the Boxing Hall is more like an impressive private collection than an actual museum. In fact, I've seen personal collections of sporting memorabilia more impressive. They have one big weekend a year, that draws a few thousand in, so popularity seems to be increasingly taken into greater consideration for inductions.

    At least that's how it all seems to me.

    :smoking:
     
  10. Rumsfeld

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    I know Dawson defeated Adamek head-to-head (and did so impressively). All the same, I genuinely feel Adamek has a stronger case than Chad. When you view their careers on the whole, I feel Adamek achieved more.
     
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  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    ...surprising to hear.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Not sure, if he had stayed at light heavyweight or cruiserweight, he was truly awesome, but when he went up to heavyweight he was just not big enough..........
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    It depends on your standard for letting someone into the HOF.
     
  14. jdoro63

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    The only Polish-born prizefighter who will make it into the International Boxing Hall of Fame is Dariusz Michalczewski (he will get inducted representing both Germany and Poland, but it will count for Poland as well making it the nation's first-ever Modern inductee).

    Adamek is a borderline candidate but will miss out on Canastota because he didn't remain at Cruiserweight. Although he won title belts at LHW and Cruiser, he held onto them for too short of a time. His attempts at HW are just not good enough (now, if he had defeated a future world champion, it'd be a different story – although, Chris Arreola is still around and if he wins a world trinket before retirement that will be Adamek's best argument for the HOF). And I don't think I have to mention his mismatch against Vitali Klitschko which – embarrassingly – happened in Poland (IMO this was worse than Golota losing to Lewis despite that lasting 95 seconds). The loss to Vitali (who will make the HOF himself next year on the first ballot) proved only one thing: that Adamek never belonged in the heavyweight division and will never belong there. He also shouldn't be given credit for defeating Golota, who was a shell of his former self when the pair collided in '09 and already permanently injured. In his prime, Golota would have owned Adamek in less than 3, pummeling "Góral" even more than Vitali did.

    All in all, Canastota is not out of reach, but there is simply too few spaces and too many good fighters each year that will forbid the one-time heavyweight title contender from entering the hallowed Hall.
     
  15. Farmboxer

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    Adamek did a lot in boxing, his big mistake was going up to heavyweight..........he was not big enough,but he was a very good light heavyweight and Cruiserweight, even won some big fights at heavy. When he fought 6 foot 8 inch Vitali Klitschko I actually felt sorry for him, he didn't have a chance!
     
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