If Crawford wins, is he a top 10 ATG at JWW?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at his resume. Wins over Dulorme, Postol, Indongo and Diaz.
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's his JWW resume so far.

    Dulorme
    Postol
    Diaz
    Molina Jr.
    Dierry Jean
    Lundy

    * Lundy and Jean were both fringe contenders who did their best work at LW
    * Molina was rated pretty highly for a while following his defeat of Provodnikov
    * Dulorme was rated at the time he fought Crawford
    * Diaz was rated at WW
    * Postol was his a fellow titleholder at the time.
    * Indongo is a partially unified titleholder.

    So, wins over a handful of contenders and complete unification of the division.

    Depending on how he looks, he might well be in contention for a spot somewhere in the lower reaches of the Top 10, yeah.
     
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  4. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    I don't know about ATG at this point. Maybe in the jww div? Who was an ATG jww? It's pretty early in the existence of the division to be designating ATGs maybe? There were probably an ATG or two who fought there...Pac comes to mind. I dunno, I don't think Bud is anywhere close to done being great, so am content to skip that claim for awhile yet. Let my man work!
     
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  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not saying he's ATG. Just thinking in terms of the division itself.

    But full unification is a big deal; and dominating the field helps his cause in terms of his placement, too. Not saying he's at the level of a Chavez, Pryor, Loi, Locche or even a Cervantes. But if he wins convincingly he looks to be in the same company as maybe someone like a Tszyu or a Hatton. It's a pretty stacked division historically...But full unification and domination of the field in the process is pretty historical in its own right.

    That said, I think Indongo is better than people give him credit for being. So, I want to see how Saturday's fight plays out before making any claim of greatness just within the weight division for certain.
     
  6. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    ATG means you're great regardless of weight.
    Wtf is a jww atg?
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    He could be. The competition is a little thin at the bottom.
    Top JWWs
    1.Chavez, 17 defenses, wins over Mayweather, Taylor, Haugen, Camacho
    2.Pryor, 10 defenses wins over Arguello x2 and Cervantes
    3.Ross, wins over Canzoneri x2 and Farr
    4.Benitez, 3 defenses, win over Cervantes
    5.Tszyu, 14 defenses, wins over Mayweather, Bramble, Judah, Chavez
    6.Cervantes, 9 title defenses, wins over Locche and Esteban De Jesus
    7.Locche, 5 defenses and a win over Cervantes
    8.Loi, wins over Carlos Ortiz x2, Eddie Perkins
    9.Cotto, 6 title defenses over the likes of Paulie Malignaggi
    10.Bradley, 6 title defenses, wins over Alexander and Witter
    11.Camacho, 3 title defenses, wins over Mancini and Haugen
    12.Berg
     
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  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    You are thinking p4p. A jww atg only includes the best fighters who fought at that weight.
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL. The stupidity on the general forum is unbelievable.
     
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  11. boxerfan13

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    Great breakdown! Cotto had a very underrated run at 140
     
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