inoue is way 2 high... he hasn't even fought 1 legit world class fighter yet I don't get how he can be higher then Thurman or spence lol.
Yeah Estrada sure showed he's a great little fighter. I had him top 10 since he beat Viloria and never dropped him, while a lot of people unfairly got off the bandwagon when he had injury layoffs. It is sad that we don't see anyone establishing themselves till they're over 25 these days. Except the best Mexican and Japanese guys. I guess Inoue and Tanaka are the only guys under 25 on my list. Spence could have a standout 10 years, but he's several years behind Floyd and Pac at their age. What does your p4p look like (top 10 anyway)?
Hmm, haven't made one in a while. I guess it looks a lot like yours except swap Spence with Lara, Rigo with Ward. No Rungvisai, his win over Gonzalez was more about Gonzalez imploding than him being anything special. No Derevyanchenko since what I've seen of him didn't impress me. DeGale a little lower. He dropped a bit in my estimation with the Jack fight. Other than that, I like your list.
I can respect anyone who doesn't rate Degale quite as highly as I so do. He has the talent but he hasn't put it together well in a lot of fights. I criticise throwing guys on p4p lists after one big win, maybe I should be more careful about Rungvisai. Yeah Roman declined and is too small at 115. But I don't think you're fair to put the result only on Gonzalez crashing out. Rungvisai's sharpened his timing and defence and can cut off the ring well, and of course can give it and take it. He has the style to trouble back foot one-dimensional 'pure boxers'. Like a Linares, who I love. And he's proven it with a solid resume beyond Gonzalez. I like him above Cuadras for sure, as I'd pick Rungvisai to smash him in a rematch.
Good list qwerty! I would probably switch Inoue with GGG and there isn't much too disagree with. I need to see more of the Monster with the likes of cuadras, rungvisai and Estrada. Nice inclusion of Estrada btw whom I thought showed top level skill set last Saturday.
Thanks! I'll wait till after GGG-Canelo before I consider changing GGG. It'll take not just beating up Canelo but showing greater skill than I think he's capable of to go above Inoue and Mikey. I love Estrada's skill and ring IQ, but I'm rating Inoue's speed, power, reflexes, and natural ability even higher. I think Inoue beats everyone at bantamweight or lower.
I'm a big fan of Degale and have him higher than most. Brook and Frampton just lost and can't be expected to be higher than I have them, though they're still world-class talents. Joshua's a heavyweight, and heavyweight's don't belong on a p4p list. Are there other Brits I should consider?
The humorous thing about this thread is it seems everyone agrees that the list is garbage lol... no matter who you're a fan of
If Joshua had been Mike Tyson he'd have been a lot higher in list,Joshua has KO all to now & should be higher.