Who has the greater legacy: Pacquiao or Floyd?

That's exactly what i told him bashes PBF's style but has Pea Whitaker as his username. I mean you can't make this type of stuff up.

 

How many times does this video have to be posted before you stop spreading that lie? You're basically on troll status now.
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oh gosh. I hope I am around in 20 years but I doubt it. I am 52 and probably not in the shape I want, but for all of you guys who will be around I don't see him being that popular. You guys will see his legacy will not stand. No great fights and the conditions to his fights. Undefeated is nice, but I think 2 losses and a few great fights go further.

 

real knowledge is the extent of one's ignorance- confusious.

 

Here's irrefutable fact.. Cotto after he lost to Pacquiao moved up to 154lbs. That's irrefutable. He obviously couldn't make 147 lbs anymore.. Let alone 145lbs without killing himself to make the weight. Oscar was still weight drained. Regardless of who I picked (which I picked Pacquiao after seeing Oscar at the weigh in) Margarito left 147 lbs in 2010 because he couldn't make the weight anymore.. Like.. Pac fans and Floyd haters can't have it both ways.. You can't say.. Floyd weight drained Canelo 2 lbs.. But leave out the fact Pac did that to Cotto/Margarito/De La Hoya. If Floyd did it.. Pac did it. Forget your justifications.. He could've fought Cotto at 147.. De La Hoya at 154 and Margarito at 154 and didn't do it for a reason.

 

I love Pacquiao but there's no way he's had a better career then Floyd. Floyd was undefeated his entire career, never really looked in trouble, 6 weight classes and champion since 1997 to 2015. You can't **** with that level of greatness.

 

The answer to this is tough.

Pacquiao grew up in an extreme poverty most people cannot fathom. He left his mother to start boxing, witnessed a friend of his die in the ring, and persevered until he got a title shot against Ledwaba--with two weeks notice. He won this fight and commenced his career, becoming the first 8 division champion and winning the lineal championship in 5 different weight classes. This is the epitome of P4P. We make up these lists based on who we THINK has the abilities to beat anyone in any division if weight wasn't an issue, but this man literally did it, fighting guys bigger than him for most of his career, all while holding other occupations on the side, from congressman, to basketball coach, to singer, to actor, to pastor, and so on. The work ethic needed to accomplish this is unbelievable.

Ultimately, however, what makes Pacquiao's legacy so amazing is what people wouldn't even consider: he lost several matches. Before we even knew who he was, he already had two blemishes in his record, and later lost to Erik Morales. Despite this, he continued improving and never once lost his resolve. Rocky Balboa figuratively stated that it's not about how hard you hit, but about how much you can get hit and keep moving forward. Pacquiao literally showed this; he was never a broken fighter after his losses and continued being recognized as one of the best, while delivering some of the most exciting fights ever, despite how many times he lost. And even when he lost, it was never a beatdown/schooling either. He was green in his first three losses, KO'd Morales twice after, was robbed against Bradley, beat Bradley twice after, and Marquez was his greatest back and forth rival. Mayweather was the only one who, arguably, beat him widely while he was slightly passed his prime, while Horn was fought at a time he was a shell of his former self. Talents like Pacquiao are seen once in a lifetime, and all I hope is he retires very soon and dedicates himself to being a senator to his people. The only thing tarnishing his legacy is his desire to continue fighting.

Mayweather was also born into a very poor family. His mom was a drug addict, and his father was jailed for a long period of his youth. He took to boxing because it was the only thing he really knew he could do very well, and managed to get a bronze medal in the olympics after a robbery. This was the moment he stated he would never lose again, and he accomplished that. The man went on to become a world champion in 5 different weight classes, was a champion for 18+ years, defeated more world champions than any boxer in history, and remained undefeated for his entire career, making almost every match seem like child's play. Furthermore, he was extremely intelligent in managing his career. Everything he did in regards to boxing, both inside and outside the ring, had a purpose, and he managed to retire as not only the richest boxer, but the richest athlete as well. Additionally, his notorious attitude combined with his displeasing fighting style amongst casuals also made him something of a villainous icon that brought more attention to the sport in general than it had gotten in years. The man just did everything right throughout his entire career, which is incredibly admirable. Ironically, the thing that brings down his legacy, in my opinion, is also his greatest accomplishment: retiring undefeated. He built his entire brand around his undefeated record, and I feel if his fight against Castillo was considered a loss, his career may have plummeted because he did not have a crowd pleasing style, and marketed himself as TBE. That one loss could have potentially destroyed his image and put him in a similar position to Broner. Furthermore, we don't know how a loss would have affected him psychologically. But for what it's worth, he never actually officially lost, so we have to take what we got, and that is one of the greatest boxers of all time, as well as the most financially successful one.

They both had amazing legacies and are legends in the sport. The greater legacy is the one that inspires you, personally, the most.

 

mayweather cherrypicked his way to 50-0...

 

Neither were really welterweights! Both to short and to small to fight ATG welters. SRR SRL Tommy Hearns Oscar Trinidad were big guys that at there peak landed 40% of their power shot. Move these pair back to lightweight.

 

50-0-0-0
Nobody can match those numbers

Pacman got beat up here & there, including by Floyd himself.

So whatever legacy Pacman has it always +1 Floyd, the more you inflate Pacman.

The more you more you inflate the guys who beat him up...(JMM also -1 with Floyd), no way to spin this other than Floyd > Pacman

 

The one who makes 300 million every time he fight

 

Mayweather is the #1 ATG at 130, while Pacman is really 3 boxers (due to the HGH gaps)

Pacman 1.0 of 112 was interesting (lack of experience)
Pacman 2.0 of 122 was Great (Top ATG)
Pacman 3.0 of 147 was interesting (Came short)

The fact that Pacman was 3 different boxers, with new cranial capacity in each version. Yet he managed to be a top level boxer in all 3 versions...Is very inspiring, the spirit transcending into a new body & each time able to turn the body into world class boxer, it confirms the importance of self-belief, HGH was a disadvantage that made Pacman loss speed, reach & range

Floyd didn't need HGH (he just had to keep the favorable numbers in his blood high), he walked around 145 when he used to fight at 130, two decades later he is not that far. He depended on his defense & excellent matchmaking as he moved up out of his weight class.

 

His legacy will stand, you know why? there's no trainer in this world that hasnt watched 1000k times floyd's fights in order to try to figure out and learn his strategy/technique. In 20 years from now, they will still be doing it. Floyd is too good to be ignored.

 

I agree

The way Floyd managed to avoid getting hit by the unavoidable longer reach of Paulie Williams & Antonio Margarito, will remain the blueprint on how to not get beat up by naturally bigger Welters when you are moving up in weight (for whatever rea$on)

 

Had he beaten margarito to a pulp, your post would be exactly the same, but using any other name, maybe khan?

Margarito, yes, a static mexican slugger is what floyd always had problems with, isnt it? a static mexican slugger is a stilistic nightmare for floyd