If Floyd fought Mosley, DLH, and Pac at their peaks, who would have won?

If Floyd is prime, 3-0.

 

In my post I disagreed with Oscar Peak or Mosley Peak

You picked their most "popular" moments as their peak, while I favor the physical peak.

Oscar De La Hoya physical peak at a theorized 130 (due to that 130 WBO fight), his size & power were very impressive at 130. At 147 he was good, struggled vs Quartey & Pernel, lost to Tito & Mosley, so how is that his peak?!

Same to Mosley at 135 he was a destructive power puncher that showed no flaws, at 147 he lost range & got dominated by Haymon's late Vernon Forrest, he was good but not great.

Peak* Floyd edges Oscar & Mosley at their best peak, you want Floyd at his peak at 130? or just any Floyd?

The worn out Oscar & Mosley that an older Floyd beaten, looked worse, but Floyd was no longer at his peak either (although still in better shape)

 

I selected he beats Shane and Pac but loses to Oscar.
I've always thought no matter the version of Pac, Floyd wins.
The version of Shane that beat Oscar was a physical specimen,
but so was Floyd, and Shane was very wild and Floyd's steadiness,
skillset and chin would've seen him through.
The version of Oscar that fought Tito, Oba Carr, Ike, Chavez, Gatti etc.....
was firing on damn near all cylinders.
And yes I know Shane beat that version, but just barely and Oscars jab
and uphook are my determining factor against Floyd's shoulder roll. (left hands can penetrate
and Oscar had one of the best left hands ever being a converted southpaw)

 

He beats all three.
Let's not forget he was also past prime when he fought them!

 

Unfortunately those fights never happened.

Anyway I have Oscar winning on points. Mosley and Pacman were monsters at their prime, but their styles are not ideal against floyd - 50/50 fights.

P.s. IMO Forrest would be even bigger favorit against floyd than Oscar due to his style. At 147, prime Margachito and paul Williams would also give huge problems for floyd.

 

That is like saying a grand baby mama gave head at 38, better than she was teething us when she was 18...

When she was 18 she was a spinner, clean tucked pocket, clear skin & well proportioned, at her physical best...but lacked maturity & skills (or desire to use/learn skills, because she can get away with it...due to the low standards of the simps-tricks of that time), now at 38 with very few Simps & Tricks chasing her she has to ensure that she focuses on what she has...She remembers her trainer telling her to utilize the God-Damn head movement...etc

You might appreciate the skills-wisdom, but in boxing prime is at the best (lowest) weight & best speed, reflexes. Legacy is when you calculate everything (prime + how they managed to achieve even after they were past their physical best)

Madonna 1984 = De La Hoya 130, sure she had a hairy bush & poor style...but that was their physical prime

Move forward in time to Stripper fishnets for De La Hoya & Pimp outfits for Madonna...you are looking at stars living on their legacy (reflects their achievements)

 

Pretty good post and l agreed with everything you said up until the last 2 paragraphs. I would favor Oscar and a prime SSM over Floyd (people forget just how fast a prime SSM was ). l'm unsure about Pac, but given the results of their fight and the JMM bout l think Floyd pulls off this fight in a close but clear decision.

 

I think the 140lb version of Oscar was probably his peak as a fighter, truth be told.

I favor Floyd to defeat the welterweight versions of both Oscar and Shane, along with Pac.

 

He struggles with all three after he went up in weight. Always felt that would have been his achilles heel...workrate. all 3 had it especially de la hoya and prime pacman. If you look back on Mayweathers record he avoided workrate as he went up the weights. Maidana and castillo caused him big problems with it. Hence the reason the only young guys he fought we,re canelo and ortiz. Two guys that didnt have great stamina.

He actually looked like he might have had a hardish night against ortiz till ortiz pretty much imploded.

Mayweather was basically a spoiler like hopkins for the last so many years....just with much better reflex,s. The thing is with them three they we,re technically good enough to let their hands go. Hard to outskill mayweather....but he could have been outworked. By the time mayweather fought each of them...they only really had half a stamina tank. Made the difference. You pretty much needed a full one to beat him.

 

Oscar wasn't "robbed against Trinidad" - Oscar lost that fight in the second half of it rather than tito won it

and if Oscar "had a natural size advantage against Floyd at welter" then how on earth did his size advantage not play out in his favour at 154??

 

2008-2012 Pac would have destroyed Floyd. Floyd knew it, too. The older, slower, semi-shot Pac countered the **** out of a still fresh, very fast, cautious Floyd and hurt him a few times.

 

I think he beats Pac the same, Moslet 8-4 and loses to ODLH 8-4. Prime Mosley and ODLh would just steam roll through todays welterweights.