Luis Ortiz pops dirty! You can forget about Wilder/Ortiz!

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  1. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    I think he needs to do more than just stay active. AJ has gone from Wlad to Pulev. Isn't Pulev ranked in the top 5? Wilder still needs to make a statement with his next fight. Let's not kid ourselves, AJ is the golden ticket that every heavyweight wants, regardless of how dangerous he is. Therefore Joshua holds all the cards. Parker wants AJ next year also. Haye, if he beats Belles, will be looking to fight AJ next year. Parker brings just as much to the table as Wilder, and Haye, regardless of whether he's finished, will be a mega money fight, generating a lot more than Wilder.

    I think he needs to fight Whyte.
     
  2. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Eh? Who have I said he should fight that got done for using Peds?
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte. Or at least you mentioned him along with Wilder not having a lot of other options.

    If I were Wilder's camp, I'd rather take someone who doesn't have a history with PEDs because the fight needs to happen for Wilder to get paid.
     
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  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Why they always trying to catch Ortiz riding dirty???

    That's bull**** man!
     
  5. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Probably Dr Superfinger
     
  6. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Is this really all over a blood pressure medication?
     
  7. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Come on, that was 5 years ago. Truth is, not many people have an interest in watching him fight, unless he ups his game. I'm not blaming him for Ortiz, but it's looking like another Wilder fight that people will not tune into, to watch... unless he can find a decent opponent.
     
  8. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only one thing we can do: bring in Eric Molina. He's the only guy that doesn't do drugs. They probably test him at the school he works at.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What do you think? What you miss is that even though he was caught red handed he had so much power/money that he turned both NSAC and USADA to his will. It also helped that he snuck into the contract loopholes that allowed him to get away with the biggest doping scandal in boxing. I think he planned to take a big dose the night before, and was surprised by the testers. Thus he had to get IV'd asap, just like Armstrong did many times before. IV = smoking gun, and most of these tools look at the IV and go that's not proof. lol
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    That's Dr. Shaw Hi if I recall correctly.
     
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    They are IF you are using it to cover up steroid use.
     
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  13. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No. And neither is 0.0000000001 trace of a substance that was put on the banned list months prior.


    Wilder:pipi
     
  14. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    These companies are not monsters, if you are up front from the very start and prove through medical records that certain drugs are required then they can work around this. No problems, no hassles. If you dont tell them, keep it to yourself and get caught with banned substances and then start claiming they are for this, that and the other what are they guna think?, what are we guna think?

    I dont know if Ortiz reported what ever his issues are and the drugs needed for them but im guessing if they had then there wouldnt be all this mess now. Why wouldnt you mention it? Its all fishy if you ask me.
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes if it was used as a masking agent. He could of used a different drug like Ramipril which my dad uses for his high blood pressure and which isn't on the WADA prohibited list.
     
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