Joe Louis vs George Foreman both prime

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    How does this go? Louis has all of the tools to beat Foreman and usually hunted for sport big punchers who could easily be countered. But a prime Foreman was of a different breed. On the other hand, Foreman wouldn't be the only puncher in the ring and he'd be up against a sharp shooter of a puncher who knew how to counter punch with the best of them. Foreman's only chance would be blowing Louis out early, because the longer the fight the more it goes in Louis favor.

    But then we run into the problem of Louis counter punching. If Foreman threw caution to the wind and attempted to bulldoze Louis, he's bound to leave some sort of opening. Who wins and how long does this last?
     
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  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis wins if he fights the perfect fight for the first 6 rounds, then he could stop him around round 8-10. But if louis gets too agressive or greedy with the combinations...George could hit him so hard that he might not recover.
     
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  3. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Louis by tko. Foreman probably knocks him down but Louis could get back up to win a fight.
     
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  4. janitor

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    Louis has the stylistic advantage here.

    He would probably finish what Ron Lyle started.
     
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  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis was too sharp, too highly skilled. Foreman walks forward into a machine gun.

    Competitive early as Louis coolly boxes, side steps and counters. A tiring Foreman in round 9 gets hit with a four punch combination that puts him down for the count.
     
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  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry but I don't see Louis being able to withstand or being able to avoid long enough for Foreman to get tired the onslaught that a young Foreman was capable of doing. I'm sorry but I don't see a fighter who got dropped by a Tony Galento and quite a few other fighters, and stopped in his prime by Max Smeling Regardless of what happened in the 2nd fight being able to survive a prime Foreman. Joe, as beautiful to watch as he was, and technically sound as he was have too many glaring weaknesses to survive a prime Foreman, or for that matter any great fighter from 1960's on up through the 1990's. But he may have beaten a Joshua or Wilder because they really are novices as far as skill level is concerned.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Galento for all of his faults and they were many, could punch. Plus, Louis wasn't really hurt per say, it was more of a flash KD.

    Max Schmeling wasn't an ATG puncher, but he did hit hard. And he hit Louis with everything plus the kitchen sink. Foreman was stopped by Ali in 8 and Schmeling was a puncher at least on par with Ali. I think if Schmeling just tee'd off on Foreman with his best right hands for 12 rounds, Foreman would go.
     
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  8. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I've thought about this one a lot and never came to a firm conclusion. I'll just make two really quick observations:

    1) I think Joe Louis' footwork is widely misunderstood

    2)Foreman had underrated skill at both glove blocking and manipulating his opponents into the position he wanted through shoves and twists. (This is one reason I'd bet on him to slaughter Tyson.)

    In the beginning it might look kind of like the first round of Foreman-Norton, but after that it could go off into one of two very different directions.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George jabs, grabs and shoves Louis back, Joe can't come forward and doesn't have the lateral movement to avoid him George Foreman by KO
     
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Walking to the ring, it's certain that one would be walking to their doom.
     
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