Christopher Eubank Jr. vs. Avni Yildirim & Stefan Haertel vs. Viktor Polyakov RBR.

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  1. Neebur

    Neebur Active Member Full Member

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    I think he's a very good fighter but I'll wait until he fights top class opposition before I go jizzing in my pants over him.
     
  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Yildrim suddenly became a top level fighter very quickly, huh?

    Beating Yildrim is a decent win, it isn't THAT impressive though. Periban wasn't too far away from doing it. Icing him in 3 rounds like that was pretty impressive though, lovely KO. Been a long time since he's had a clean one like that.

    Is that a better win than Abraham?
     
  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Jacobs? Saunders rematch? Langford?

    He didn't show he was the better boxer against BJS; he showed he is a far superior athlete. Really disagree with this notion that he gave the first half away and then won every round of the second half, it's nonsense. Saunders was quicker to the punch and Jr couldn't deal with it. Then Saunders did his usual and slowed down. Jr has improved since then no doubt and a close Saunders loss isn't really that bad a thing but this history revision bugs me.
     
  4. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    You sound like you watched Jr vs Saunders with your eyes closed?
     
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  5. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Periban should have beaten Bika and had a draw with Jack, Periban was also the bloke that was getting beaten up
     
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  6. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Nah
     
  7. Shempz

    Shempz Active Member Full Member

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    Not the biggest fan of CEJ, and I picked BJS to beat him at the time, as Eubank was still very raw and really had not exhibited many boxing skills up to that point.

    Glad to see though that he appears to have come on considerably since then, and thought it a good performance against Yildirim. He is still a bit wild at times though with some amateurish/Deontay Wilder style swings, and he will need to tighten up on that if he wants to take on the big boys of the division.

    There really is no need to copy his old man though with the stupid preening and posing before and after every fight.
     
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  8. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why? his opinion of it was spot on. i actually think CEJ won the 6th, that a lot ignore saying "Saunders won the first 6", but he simply did not win all rounds from 7-12. he won 4, absolute MAX
     
  9. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I saw bjs and Eubank fight pretty evenly through 6, bjs had the very slight egde. But after 6 cej proved to me how much better he is/was even then to bjs.

    Bjs fought a couple rounds even ish from 6 thru 12, only 2 even ish. I had all but 2 pretty even 1 thru 6. Bjs truly got the benefit of the expectation going in he was getting destroyed, so every even round was thought of as bjs extremely exceeding expectations.

    I believe 100% that bjs knows he got the only ever version of cej that he could fight 12 even ish rounds. Cej won his rounds much better than bjs won his.

    Cej should had been able to get multiple kd's and even the stoppage, that loss was 100% due to cej not attacking at all until the mid rounds. All the standing waiting for a pic to be taken cost him some early rounds.

    Bjs wouldn't ever accept fighting cej again and that's because he knows cej is the superior everything and he got away with one he'll never be gift wrapped again.

    We be hard pressed to find a single person that watched their fight who came away thinking bjs was cej equal. We all saw who the better fighter was. The better bigger headed fighter thought he'd be getting the benefit of the doubt but because how he and his father are he'll never get the benefit of doubt.

    Close rounds cej loses on the cards. That fight actually greatly helped Jr become the great fighter he is. That's the sole reason he starts fights fast now and wants stoppage wins.

    Great 5,6 years of cej beating the **** outta anyone that wants it. He's the #1 fighter @68 who can still make 60 and would dominate there too
     
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  10. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree tbh, I thought BJS was comfortably ahead after 6. I don't think Eubank necessarily showed he was better than BJS, I think he just upped the work rate and he still didn't win. I don't think its a high skill level or ring iq that wins him fights, its the work rate and punches in bunches. its no coincidence he has only fought fighters who stand in front of him since. and he still has a tendency to be very wild. even in the knockout sequence on Saturday, he planted his fight and missed quite a few punches, then swang wildly and missed (tbf he got back into position very quickly and well after that to set up the KO), but he won't get away with that against a more schooled and talented boxer who is good on their feet with a good jab...enter George Groves. I do agree we saw who the better fighter was in that CEJ/BJS fight though, BJS. i thought he performed a lot better than I've seen him before on Saturday which shows he is still clearly improving, but it was Avni Yidrim, an unproven fighter with a style perfectly suited for Eubank. if he beats Groves, there can be no denying it anymore as that is his stylistic nightmare, and ill be the one of the first on here after saying he proved me wrong
     
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    Juergen Braehmer was in attendance for the fight.
     
  12. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just watched the fight...

    Have to say that was a strange, badly handled stoppage. Not to say it definitely shouldn't have been stopped, but the ref waved it off before he could conceivably have appraised Yildirim's condition. It wasn't the kind of brutal knockdown that shouldn't need a count. Yildirim dropped to the canvas quickly but was not immobile, wasn't concussed, didn't have trouble immediately trying to get up... yet the ref waved it off before even looking at him. The ref should've given him a count and let him try to get up, watched him carefully, looked at his eyes, then stopped it or not. Yildirim didn't protest and he was hurt so he and his team weren't protesting, but regardless that wasn't done right.
     
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  13. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree.

    However, in mitigation of the error I believe the ref saw Yildirim's eyes as he was going down and he definitely looked out of it then.
     
  14. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Come on, he did have some trouble getting up, he didn't just bounce up.
    He looked like he woke up when he hit the canvas, he was very groggy
     
  15. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said Yildirim didn't have trouble 'trying' to get up, not that he had no trouble getting up, which he did do well before what would've been a count of 10. When the guy's able to move and make an effort to get up he deserves at least the benefit of a count and a close look. The ref didn't give him that, so we can't say there definitely was no chance Yildirim could've continued. That a guy's groggy doesn't warrant immediately stopping a fight. It just wasn't a 'no count necessary' kind of knockdown.