Training 3 X's a day killing me. What natural PEDs should I take?

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  1. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Never pushed myself like this I run 4-6 miles, four-five times a wk. Train 10-12 then 5-8 five times a week.

    Basically Training six hours a day five times a week. Been boxing since I was 13 but never pushed myself this hard.

    I'm at a very great gym, on best terms I've ever been with a coach don't want to offend, he was a former pro.

    Vitamins, protein and eating CLEAN ain't enough for me body wants to quit.

    What can I get online or at a gnc??

    Guys thanks for the help I don't want unnatural stuff any natural PEDs that help endurance/ recovery? Looking into estrogen blockers?

    Info greatly appreciated
     
  2. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's a needless amount of training.
     
  3. Rafaman

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    Sounds like overtraining if I have ever heard it. Our bodies grow and adapt when we give it time to rest not the opposite way around. You are in a constant state of fatigue no wonder why you feel like using PEDs, your testosterone would be at low low levels. Why are you training this much? I know UFC pros who trained 3 times a day but even then 1 session would be only stretching. The national boxing team in my country trains 3 times a day but never super hard, all the session are a maximum of 45 minutes and even then the night session might be reflex based and active rest like a walk or even ping pong.

    Are you in training camp? I know most fighters would increase training volume mid camp but its only a short time frame. The body can only handle so much. Then training is tapered off come 1-2 weeks before the fight.

    You are running a risk of a real injury keeping this training regime up. Tendonitis must be an issue for you. The forearms fatigue quickly and you would be pounding them so often with all that contact.

    Are you getting regular sports massages? Your muscles would be so full of lactic acid the massages will hurt like hell the first few times.

    No PED advice sorry. Rest up and cut that training back. Yes go hard of course but resting more is only a good thing. I used to run with an Olympic 800 m runner. He has this mentality of training hard core all the time, minimal rest. He tore his hamstring off the bone during a meet in the USA. He went from my country's top 800m runner to never being able to run again. 1 Olympics and he was done 25 yrs old.
     
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  4. Rafaman

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    You will need lots of magnesium to replenish the water you are losing from all the exercise. With that volume of training you will be very dehydrated and I imagine your glutes and lower back must be stiff as a board. I used to run up to 70kms a week just for roadwork. My glutes were so tight it was often painful. Only dry needling and rest fixed that.

    With this amount of overtraining it would be affecting your sleep. I know I had these issues and that was with only 7 sessions in 5 days. Only tennis and golfers elbow issues stopped me and made me re-evaluate. Then I found out my body actually worked better with proper hydration and rest. Yes, I boxed better with LESS training. Sure I still went hard every week but that was only a few sessions a week. You perform better when the muscles are loose and relaxed not stiff and overworked.

    Boxing is an explosive sport, how can you be explosive training this much? I trained with Olympic and pro boxers and none of them had your training regime.
     
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  5. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks a ton for the advice, yeah started getting massages once a week. I caught the flu and I think it's from over training I Never get sick.

    Training for a USA am tournament, only done smokers as a kid. I don't want to do amatuer much longer so I Need to impress.

    I admit It's not all non stop training for all six hours. When I run it's at a six-seven per mile pace.

    I agree I'm best to cut back. I was running less but coach said don't get lazy pick up on miles. I've never ran this consistantly

    I'm training here because there are well established champs and former champs who come and set their training camps here. Hear most in the gym six hours plus a day in camp but they're much more conditioned, skilled than me obviously and training for longer fights also getting paid.
     
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  6. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks again, yeah I know about the magnesium. Man when I get done training my pee is bright Neon yellow lol!!

    Man I'm training with former boxing oylampians too. Coach says three times a day in camp is the normal

    Right now I'm just doing school two classes in person two online so I have a lot of time on my hands. Big goal of mine is to just go pro and have a few fights dream of mine on and off since I was a kid
     
  7. Rafaman

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    Well something needs to change right? Can you sustain the current workload?
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The best thing for you is to sit down and figure out what your weaknesses are. Does your stamina need working on? Are you strong enough? How's your speed? etc.

    Good luck to you man, I wish you all the best. I myself am working real hard to make the Navy boxing team after I get out of boot camp and A and C schools. Hopefully that will be about July or August of next year.
     
  9. FrankyM

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    Have you ever thought to consider that such amount of training might be too much?
     
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  10. anjawnaymiz

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    sounds like too much to me

    I'd keep the running although bring it down to 5 miles

    is there weight training in this aswell? if I was you I'd just stick to running, skipping, pad/bag work and sparring anything else cut out
     
  11. Rock0052

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    Sometimes less is more, mate.

    I fully understand the desire to impress, particularly when you're surrounded by other talented fighters and a good coach- that environment alone can get some extra percent out of you without realizing it just from natural competitiveness kicking in!

    The other posters have nailed it- you're overworking yourself. You'll notice this in numerous ways- restless sleeping or difficulty falling asleep, compromised immune system, wear and tear injuries like tendinitis, lack of explosion, feeling lethargic even if your nutrition's on point....those are all common indicators, and it sounds like you've checked pretty much all the boxes.

    If you're glued to 3x a day and can't reduce that, try dialing back the intensity a bit or building in extra rest days in the schedule. Reducing the kilometers ran can help. With that volume, make sure your shoes are in great shape- issues from running high volumes in crappy shoes can sneak up on you, and they're a pain to deal with. If you've got access to it, try moving some of your cardio work to the pool: it's much easier on your joints in the long run and you can still build fantastic conditioning in it. After working out, soaking in water a few degrees below your body temperature can help reduce swelling.

    Nutrition wise, track your protein intake- if you're not getting enough, your body can't rebuild the muscle it's burning. Remember- even if you're burning fat with all that cardio, you're not burning 100% fat. Muscle will burn off, too (this is why marathoners often look so skinny and frail).

    I'm just a hobbyist when it comes to boxing training- no professional- but I've been around gyms and sports nutrition for about 20 years. This is stuff I primarily picked up training for football (US), wrestling, and track, and my own rehab from getting shoulder tendinitis from overtraining (i, too, didn't realize how many of the overtraining boxes I'd checked until it was too late). Hopefully there's something of value in it for you.

    Best of luck!
     
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  12. viru§™

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    This is pretty much it. You're training far too much, your body is telling you this, you're ignoring it.

    It's about training smart not doing a shitload of training.
     
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  13. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not always about training hard, it's about training smart....
     
  14. Texascyclone

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    Sounds way overtrained. A good 90 min. boxing workout and 30 min of interval training is plenty. 6 days on, 1 day off.
     
  15. Giacomino

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    Eat a healthy balanced diet, maybe multi-vitamin (though even that shouldn't be necessary if your diet is on point), plenty of water and get enough sleep. That's really it.
     
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