Obviously if you face an average fighter you're going to look quicker, faster, and more skilled than you would facing a fighter of a better skill level. You take even a 27 year old Golovkin, Canelo is faster than that Golovkin period. The faster an opponent you face, the slower more diminished you look. Use common sense here G'tards. Its come down to that in this forum. First it was infiltrated with *******s, but now a new breed has come in, G'tards.
Not sure which fan base you referred to in that post since it was filtered but I would assume it's Pacquiao. At least Pacquiao fans(myself included) had PACQUIAO to trash talk about. An ATG with ATG ability and resume. Golovkin brings absolutely nothing to the table, literally nothing. The man wasn't even proven and his fans were claiming Andre Ward is so scared of him, he had to move up to Light Heavyweight to further protect himself from the terror. Golovkin's fan base is by far the most hilarious I've ever seen even after following the sport for nearly two decades now.
He's in decline... AND He's stepped up in competition. His last two opponents have been his best two opponents, and he is closer to 36 than 35.
Only on internet forums will you find people that will try to argue about how a 35 year old with 100s and 100s of fights, is in his prime.
And....you could actually bring some reality to the discussion - and it might even make you some friends. Think about it, you've made over 74,000 posts and have just about 230 likes. Don't ya' think the boxing community here is trying to tell you something?
I don't think the jest of this thread is to debate whether Golovkins is prime, but to debate whether his performances in his last two fights with Jacobs and Canelo are due to any decline in him. I think the posts on this here thread have been fair, I don't think anyone in this thread is saying Golovkin is at his prime, but is his imo losses to Jacobs and Canelo due to decline? I say no. Both Jacobs and Canelo are significantly better than any fighter that Golovkin had ever faced.
Divac... there are people flat out claiming Golovkin is not in decline. Those arent 'fair' points. And if G is in decline... which I think most reasonable people agree on, and G narrowly beat or drew with his two best opponents, how exactly would a better version of Golovkin not do better? And what is better than a draw and close win? A close win and a comfortable win. To think a prime Golovkin wouldnt perform better than did a 35 year old ones defies logic. Its not like this version of golovkin is some masterful ring general that has gotten better with age as hes lost physicality but refined his skills. Hes the same prototype of the fighter he was in his prime... just a bit of a step behind in speed, form, activity, ect. And I expect that bit to be just a tad bit more next year, and the year after, ect. Like a normal human being. Now... do the Jacobs n Canelo fights come entirely down to G being 34 n 35 years old? Of course not. Its quite obviously a good mix of Canelo and Jacobs being standout fighters. That goes without saying. Most fighters have much closer fights with the best they face than they do anyone else. For Golovkin, he didnt get to fight the best in his division until he was already in decline... so the only answer here is that its down to both. My initial point was addressing the people blatantly claiming G is not in decline or claiming it played no part in those fights.
Wow, so who should he have fought instead? Name all the guys that are better than his opponents that we somehow missed. I'd like to see these lions. Sounds like I've been missing some fine fighters!
I said Geale, Murray and Lemieux were legitimate and proven fighters. You're having difficulty with this, aren't you? I'm having doubts about the latter.
At 28 sprinters tend to lose their top speed, so yes GGG is definitely on the decline. Physically everything except his power, skills and experience has declined. The competition is also a big difference compared to his previous opponents. The Jacobs fight I feel wouldn't have been a huge difference even if GGG was in his prime, because Jacobs had a lot of physical advantages which would have been hard for GGG to overcome regardless. Canelo on the other hand is tough to call, GGG struggled to land bombs because the speed difference. A higher woke rate from GGG may have made that fight a little more one sided, but it may have also resulted in a lot more missed shots. Really hard one to call, in the end the competition I feel had a larger impact than his physical decline. But we also have never seen GGG need to go all out during his prime, so we won't likely ever see him at his best.
Wow...Canelo and Jacobs run and GGG is accused of getting old. Well, Canelo could run, but he couldn't hide. And in the end, GGG landed twice as many punches on Canelo than Canelo could GGG - and here's the video that counts the punches: This content is protected