Golovkin / Canelo rematch seems unlikely

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Gotta let it marinate folks
     
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I could understand marinating before first fight, not now. Not after the promise of the return being next. Who wants to wait besides Oscar ?
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are ominous signs that BCS8 and many of his fellow Triple G fans are terrified of a rematch vs Canelo Alvarez that they spend every waking moment of every day praying that the rematch does not happen so they do not have to witness Triple G losing to Canelo. (officially) They know he lost the first fight, and want to stay in their bubble of believing Triple G won, but if a rematch happens they fear that it will burst their bubble and they will have no choice but to admit that Gennady just couldn't beat Canelo Alvarez.

    Look at the sheer desperation of BCS8 trying to do anything to stop the rematch from happening next lol. And we heard for so long from these characters that Canelo would never fight Triple G, that he was scared, that the fight was never happen lol. Then it happens, it goes 12 rounds, something they also said could never happened (because Triple G was gonna knock out Canelo remember lmao) and now once again are saying the same thing about the rematch. I mean wow, you'd think somebody like BCS8 would want to see the rematch more than anything. Why is it that so many Triple G fans are doing anything they can so the rematch doesn't happen. Are they really that scared of seeing Gennady losing to Canelo? I think we know the answer to that !
     
  4. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Lol
    I was once working in the restaurant during my Uni years, and the boss who don't know chit walks into the kitchen with cooked prawns and asked the chef to marinate them.
    The chef stared with WTF look and told him, you can't marinate cooked food you fool!!

    Same case with rematch! It was cooked, you can't marinate it.
     
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  5. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your super imposing your weaknesses on to others. BCS8 trying to stop the fight ? Pmsl. Hes a boxing fan on ESB you complete tool lol
     
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  6. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not really the opinion of a fight fan. You would think only Oscar talks like that, or Canelos Mom
     
  7. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    I think Beouche is only joking.
    Dude is holding Marquez nuts on one hand and GGG nuts in the other lol.
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol then why is he so desperate trying to convince us that the rematch is so unlikely. This as far as I can tell is all based on DLH's comments about the winner of Lemieux / BJS being an option. DLH stated that the rematch is the priority and I have no reason he's not genuine on that.

    Simply put, the rematch is a bigger fight than Canelo vs the winner of BJS / Lemieux. It makes business sense for the rematch to happen first. I find it ironic that it always seems to be Triple G fans arguing that the rematch is unlikely or they don't want it to happen. Why is that the case?
     
  9. N17

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    Canelo has zero choice in my opinion otherwise it's a blatant duck and I expect Canelo fans to agree with that and turn on him.

    It's the biggest fight out there for both, we need a definitive results after the first fight and it can't just be left unifinished.
     
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  10. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The rematch is unlikely, you not heard Oscar ?? ffs..Hes talking about options, you understand ?? Meaning maybe not happening, we getting closer ?? They cant have 2 home town decisions on the trot. Lol I cant or wont explain the obvious to you. You know the facts like the rest, be strong and see it as it is..
     
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  11. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And you've got Shadow talking like the fans of GGG are scared, wtf !
     
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  12. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know, it's ridiculous

    Scared of what? We saw the first fight, there is nothing to be scared of.

    Canelo fans whined like miserable old women for ages, they insisted Golovkin should just sign for the first fight and accept anything he was offered, they even called it a duck when he didn't sign immediately.

    Now they have nothing to say, Canelo was beaten in the eyes of the vast majority and Canelo and Oscar deep down know he lost and don't want a rematch.

    If Canelo does not sign then it's a duck and I am sure the Mexican boxing fans will absolutely savage him.

    Look, he might sign, if he does then great, I want to see it again with a proper referee and proper judges.
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing to be scared of? If you watched the first fight, then you surely noticed how much more cautious Triple G was than usual. Whether it's being scared / worried / cautious whatever you want to call it, Triple G admitted himself in the pre-fight that fighting Canelo is his most difficult fight (or something to that effect). Sure some of that is hype but it was confirmed in the ring. There's a lot for Triple G and his fans to be worried about in the rematch. Plenty of people have stated that they favor Canelo in the rematch, even people that refuse to admit Canelo won the first fight. G's never been hit with repeated hard bone crunching uppercuts like Canelo landed on him. He's never fought someone who can make him miss like Canelo has. Now look, whether or not you or other G fans are truly scared, obviously you're never gonna admit that, but it sure sounds like it with all the denial about how close the first fight was, how the rematch is so unlikely, etc.

    You're hugely generalizing. I seriously haven't heard a single Canelo ever argue what you're saying. You are projecting an image of the average Canelo fan that's laughable. "miserably old women" ? ? Listen to your self. Canelo's fans as far as I can tell always wanted the fight. They may have called Gennady out on his hypocrisy of like saying he'd fight Floyd at 154 but how dare Canelo ask that he fight at 155, but there is hypocrisy there. (not that Canelo ever even went that far by demanding G come down) I can't speak for anyone else, but I just want to see the rematch happen, and having to hear about how the rematch is so unlikely is not what I want to hear. Especially since I know it's all based on that one DLH quote. Bottom line, we need this fight to happen next, PERIOD.

    No one knows they lost. When you're in a fight that close, when each guy is having success, it's human nature to think you won. (within reason) Canelo and Oscar don't know deep down they lost and don't want a rematch. That's completely absurd. Not only do they believe that Canelo won, but they have to believe that Canelo won. It's called being a fighter and believing in yourself. If Canelo starts letting doubt creep in, it's going to hurt his chances in the rematch.

    What you're describing, the mentality of "deep down thinking you lost" is a defeatist mindset. You don't reach the heights that Canelo or Triple G reached by not believing you're the best.

    By the way, you said you want to see it again with a proper referee? What was wrong with the referee the first time? That's I think the first complaint I've heard about the referee. Please elaborate on what you're looking for in a referee that the ref in the first fight didn't deliver on. Was he being unfair to Gennady too?

    And by the way, as far as proper judges, I don't think you're gonna have to worry about Byrd judging the rematch. But as far the other two referees, I mean, lets be real, if the rematch is close and goes to the decision, OK, if Gennady doesn't win you're gonna come on here cry about it. So lets just call it what it is : the only proper referee in your mind is a referee that awards the fight to Gennady Golovkin. Short of that happening, any decision that does not crown Gennady the winner is going to be a huge scandal because you simply have no appreciation for what Canelo does in that ring.

    If you can't admit that Canelo fought one hell of a fight and arguably won or at least came close to winning the fight, then barring a total domination, you're never gonna accept a Canelo decision victory. Unless Genandy is laid out on the canvas, you're gonna scream robbery or some kind of judging conspiracy. The least you can do is admit that you just will not under any circumstances accept a Canelo decision victory. It's the same thing we've seen for years every time Canelo steps up to fight the best. Trout, Lara, Floyd, etc. Denial Denial Denial on how good Canelo did in those fights. It's really no different in the Triple G fight. Bottom line, Canelo deserves praise and respect for how he fought Triple G. He gave Triple G his toughest fight in his career. (Jacobs arguably a close second) Gennady Golovkin never fought anyone who took him into the deep waters Canelo did. Even Jacobs, as well as he fought, was knocked down and gassed out in the 12th. Canelo on the other hand, started strong, and finished strong, and that's what Champions Do. If you can't admit how well Canelo did, if you can't appreciate him as a fighter, then I don't know what else to tell you. And all this talk from Triple G fans either not wanting the rematch to happen, or saying the rematch is so so unlikely, just screams being concerned at what could happen to Gennady in the rematch. And frankly, if I was a Triple G fan, after seeing what happened in the first fight, after seeing Canelo have no problem dealing with Triple G's power, after seeing Canelo land the kind of punches he landed on Gennady, I'd be real worried too. I don't know how Gennady is going to deal with Canelo the 2nd time around. I mean, just the fact that so many people are talking about how Gennady should retire, or is getting older, etc then you have Canelo, a guy in his prime, I mean any reasonably grounded boxing fan should be able to admit that there's a lot to worry about when it comes to fighting Canelo.
     
  14. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You do know its GGG waiting and Canelo looking at options don't you? Forget the long, weird, twisted, agenda ridden undertone your replys imply blatantly. You have no reason to think dlh wont keep to his word ?? you need to read and educate yourself before commenting. HE'S LOOKING AT THE BJS V LEMIEUX FIGHT BEFORE GIVING THE GREEN LIGHT TO THE REMATCH YOU TOOL
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    No way did he make 30 mil. That is insane.