What makes Adam Booth such a good trainer?

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  1. Brixton Bomber

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  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The work he did with Kylie was amazing!
     
  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    He was a snake oil salesman to some degree. Certain trainers acquire a cache of mystique due to a combination of flimflam and a good run/result with a certain fighter, then it inevitably all calms down in leaner times. Nazim Richardson springs immediately to mind - you couldn't get away from that guy on boxing forums in 2009, he was unquestionably the greatest oracle ever to grace his profession and it was a coin toss between "swim without getting wet" and "knock the grease off this dude" for the distinction of being the sageliest utterance of all utterances ever uttered in a fighter's corner.

    Booth is a pretty good strategist. He's a calm presence in the corner and will do his best to check a fighter and keep his mind on the plan or try to identify remedies if things go awry. He has some creative preparation methods. On the other hand, he only truly works well with a certain set of attributes that lend themselves to the rather one-dimensional Booth style - it is with explosive, dynamic athletes that he achieves his best success, most conspicuously with Haye due to the immense punching power he was able to harness in the Bermondsey man (when he says that Ryan Burnett is the best pure talent he's ever worked with, he's having a laugh - it's Haye, and may always be Haye). He's never going to train a mediocre athletic specimen to box like Billy Graham, because he's not a great technique coach in any rounded sense. Andy Lee, groomed for years as a classical, stand-up boxer-puncher in the Kronk vein, was behind on points in both of those notable KO wins with Booth, and it was only his right hook that bailed him out. Now, granted, Andy's money punch would've been gameplanned on to a degree, but I doubt it was Adam's intention for his guy to be losing fights clearly and relying on big single bombs to get him out of jail. Aside from the big right hand, Lee was an awkward fit for Booth's style -- Booth even admitted that he initially saw "nothing" in Lee and was baffled at the prospect of doing "work with a guy like this" -- and it showed in the results, which were very spotty outside of the spectacular KO's (which I think owe to Lee's experience as much as anything Adam had him doing).

    I will say that he would've been a really good fit for a guy like Carl Frampton recently.
     
  4. Bridie mcmahon

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    He's no better than any of the other top British trainers in reality...seems to get nut hugged for being the dark lord and a bit weird!
     
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  5. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hard to really say without seeing the guy work. Can only really go on the fighters he,s made. Cause he,s only made a couple its hard to say weather he got lucky or not. But for me anyway with what we,ve seen he's defo up there as one of Britain's best trainers.

    Haye and groves shared a lot of similarities which kind of points towards...his influence being more on them that a lot of people like to admit. Think the main difference is his fighters seem to be the ones dishing it out a lot more than the other way about. A lot of British trainers rely on nutrition nowadays. They bring their guys into the fight bigger than the other guy. They then outlast the opponent due to their size and probably work rate. More so than skill.

    Whereas guys like booth and ingle...concentrate on footwork a lot more. For me footworks one of the biggest things in boxing that's also the most neglected. It does everything...positions you for attack. Gets you out of trouble when necessary. Gets the opponents wary to come forward. The list could go on and on. It builds fighters that can fight a few different ways when necessary.

    I think both groves and haye have went backwards without him. Hayes biggest problem against bellew was his footwork regardless if he had an injury or not going in. He ended up a bit clueless how to set up an offence properly. His footwork was also a mess in the two fights prior to that against the two no hopers. Also think although people will disagree groves has went backwards as well. He,s beating guys looking decent who he should be beating but again his footworks not what it was. He was a great sniper fighter coming through. Now he's relying on size and workrate to get the job done. Its looking good but bearing in mind he's a little bit vulnerable his chins not the best and his stamina plummets...it,ll be his downfall in the end.

    Think he,ll find out against eubank. They actually fight in a similar way nowadays...the problem with that is ones got a very good chin and excellent stamina whereas the others got not the best chin and stamina that tends to plummet. Its the wrong style for George to fight in. The guys he,s been beating recently he,d beat anyway he wanted.
     
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  6. londonboxingess

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    He seems solid but but a bit over rated, he was hailed as the mastermind behind Groves beating Degale but then was also the one behind Haye being clueless for 12 rounds vs Klit
     
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  7. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he is the best trainer in the UK by a clear distance
     
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  8. Twentyman

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    I think it’s an awful lot to do with the interpersonal relationship dynamics between fighter and trainer. There as to be that connection. Trainers often say they end up taking on multiple roles with a fighter including being their relationship counsellor, father-figure, financial advisor etc etc.
     
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  9. Brixton Bomber

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    Booth does manage his fighters though, doesn't he?
     
  10. Twentyman

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    Not sure mate.
     
  11. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're entitled to an opinion but I would value the opinion of Billy Joe Saunders more.
     
  12. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He only takes 10%.
     
  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me guess...he thinks his trainer is the best one. As all boxers would say.
     
  14. delboy82

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    haha, if BJS told me that the grass is green I would still open the door walk out and double check !
     
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  15. anjawnaymiz

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    I know quite a few good fighters that approached him and he said no thanks

    I quite like the fact that he now keeps a small stable and concentrates on those few

    Agreed on haye/groves, he really fine tuned them and got there timing with the jab and big right hand spot on

    they've not been the same since they left adam
     
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