Joe Frazier vs. The Following Back to Back

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    How would Joe Frazier do if he had to fight the following fighters back to back?

    Ray Impelletiere - 6'7 - 250lb
    Jose Santa - 6'7 - 250lb
    Abe Simon - 6'4 - 250lb
    Jack Torrance - 6'5 - 250lb
    Victorio Campolo - 6'9 - 250lb
    Seal Harris - 6'3 - 240lb
    Buddy Baer - 6'6 - 240lb
    Max Baer - 6'4 - 220lb
    Roy Clark - 6'5 - 250lb
    Primo Carnera - 6'6 - 260lb

    Does he tear through them like paper machete?
    Or does the size and physicality wear him down?
     
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    How long does he get between fights?

    That could be a game changer.
     
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    Roughly the rate at which he fought at in his actual career.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I would favour him over all in a stand alone match.

    I think that he would under perform against these guys, relative to their levels as fighters, but still beat moat of them decisively.

    The Baer brothers would be the obvious hump in the road.

    They would both be dangerous for him in their own right, and fighting them back to back, might well result in a loss.

    The last fight with Carnera might be a sting in the tail.

    This is not a guy that he wants to be up against, if he is depleted.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Joe would have destroyed Carnera.
     
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    Upsets do occur
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He has to get there first!
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Ray Impelletiere pulls a Foreman like destruction
     
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    This is 10 fights against Live fighters who made the grade and came to fight. It’s a tall order for any champion not just a Joe. Just looking at this list, already it seems a better resume than Anthony Joshua and Wilder have right now.

    I think Joe scores some spectacular knockouts here. He beat much better fighters than this didn’t he? But these are all very good guys and a tough proposition for any champion. Wear and tear could effect him by fight 9 but I would back him over every single one of them. Some might be a struggle but he’d get there.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Compared to today’s rabble of big oafs. Yes.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Sure I do. Campolo had a good record. He beat Arturo Godoy. Santa beat guys at least as good as contenders we have now. Seal Harris was a big black dude, he could compete now. They all would.
     
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    Get with the program Kevin.

    Anyone that fought Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Frazier or Holmes are all very very fine fighters or better.

    If they fought Liston, Foreman or Tyson they are shyte pal.
     
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    Max Baer would pummel him and Buddy Baer might do the same. The rest he would probably beat, imo.
     
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    Seal Harris was big, strong, and bouncy; He was not a clever boxer but packed a good punch and took one too

    During his career, he defeated such men as Jack Leslie, Pete Wistort, Chuck Wiggins, Neil Clisby, Walter Cobb, "Long" Tom Hawkins and Frankie Simms. Harris claimed the coulored world title after getting the better of the great Larry Gains in a no decision bout. Harris fought “exhibitions” with a prime Joe Louis, Jim Braddock and Max Baer. And Louis took no prisoners in exhibitions.

    Jose Santa was a huge giant of a man who is on YouTube boxing max Schmeling. He had 93 fights. Fought all over the world. Challenged for the European title And held his own with good men. He drew with world title challenger Tom Heeny and knocked out Jim Maloney. He lasted into the tenth round with the murderous puncher Max Baer. So Santa was no slouch. He already has better credentials than former world champion Charles Martin.

    Jack Torrance I accept was the weakest of the bunch. A good fighter surely would wipe the floor with Torrance but he was very very strong. He set the world record for the shot put and played pro football. I don’t see why he could not fare as well as any of the losing big guys that pad the record of Anthony Joshua.
     
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    I had a wild dream last night that I beat up Joe Fraizer. Reznick anid Choklab were there.
     
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