Shane Mosley Vs Lomanchenko at 135 ?

Shared delusion engendered by neatly calibrated matchmaking and cute marketing. Exacerbated by a little bit of demographic fervor in some cases.

 

Pure and utter vebal diarrhoea lol

The only nutcase 'studying' this is you.
Nobody is distorting any numbers regarding lomachenko, only you.
You carry on believing Donald Curry and Micheal nunn are more worthy to acclaim of an elite fighter than Loma.
You one arrogant pretentious pos

 

Are you still crying and name-calling in lieu of an actual argument? You're taking things awful personally. Might you be related to Loma? On his payroll?

 

It obviously irritates you that lomachenko is having praise lavished on him. lol

 

lol@Forrest . He was 6 foot tall with extreme hurting power. He had a longer reach than Sergey Kovalev. All those fights at 147 don't say much about how Mosley fares at 135 against Loma.

Mosley at that weight was very fast and explosive. We've yet to see Loma at that weight. 50/50 for now.

 

We never saw Mosley against someone with good footwork at lightweight, who could move and make sophisticated use of angles. We did at welterweight and he lost, and it wasn't just length that beat him. The evidence is there, he would have those same at least relative weaknesses at lightweight. There is no evidence that Loma couldn't handle a great combination of speed and power. There has to be the absolute highest technique and footwork to implement said speed and power to beat Loma. Mosley wasn't that Leonard type full package.

 

I would favor Mosley for the same reason Lomo was favored and won last night. He was fighting at his weight against a smaller boxer. Lomo would be a smallish 135 and the old adage is "always favor a good big fighter for a good smaller fighter.

 

Shane crushes him badly. Shane had it all at 135.

 

I would like to see Loma at 135 vs Mikey but at this moment, I would favor Loma vs Mosley by decision at 135.

 

I have an allegiance to perspectived thought and I'm not selective in that respect. For example, I was consistent in calling for a rational take on Adrien Broner (and in quite presciently detailed terms, as our good peer GlaukosTheHammer will attest) at a time when even many of those who thoroughly disliked the man had resigned themselves to the supposed inevitability of his ascent to the top of the sport. It's not as if I have some deeply ingrained prejudice toward idiosyncratic, athletic Ukrainians. To clarify, you'll be relieved to know that I consider Lomachenko a more talented and a better fighter than Broner. My criticisms are relative. I'm not saying Lomachenko is awful.

Moreover, I've been bemused by your incivility and short fuse. Did we exchange words at all prior to your taking offence to my estimation of Loma? I don't know posters well enough to apply such a personal slant to a difference of opinion. If I've passed any judgement on the character of anyone here, it would be based on the hostility of their manner toward myself or others.

 

On reflection I was harsh. We can agree to disagree on Loma, but I thought you were being unreasonably negative about a fight, which in my opinion wasn't getting the respect it deserved.
Sorry for my overly zealous response to your posts.

 

Mosley was in the ring at 147-150lb as a lightweight. And had frightening speed and power. Loma has never fought someone that good, or that big. Not ruling Loma out but he would need to handle Mikey in the same way he has Walters and Rigo to make me believe he could beat an ATG at 135lb. That said, i wouldn't put it past him

 

It's cool, we all have our moments. I agree that the relative lack of broader public notice for matchups like this is a shame. Whatever my personal reservations about Rigo's fitness to mount a serious challenge (age, size, inactivity), there's always a certain amount of prestige and mystique attached to a meeting of P4P rated guys, and this event was unique in terms of the trivia framing it (pro meeting of unusually accomplished amateurs, each with a brace of gold medals to his name). Outside of politics, though, I tend to live in my own cultural bubble, so the lack of enthusiasm I talked about was relative to the buttload of anticipation going around on dedicated forums.

All that said, it might ultimately have ended up being for the best if this particular fight's mainstream exposure were minimized - when the public sees a guy give up on himself without putting it all on the line after they've been told that he represents the best of the best boxing has to offer, it doesn't exactly sell them on the sport. While we may not agree over stylistic criticism I've subjected Rigo to, we probably can agree that competitive drive is a very significant component in being an elite fighter - this was the first time in his career that Rigo wasn't in control of a situation, and he gave up with half a fight fought and his career literally hanging on the line. I didn't expect him to be able to find the answers he needed, but I'll be darned if he shouldn't have tried his ass off to find them and gone out on an honest effort. Granted, he is 'old', and that could be expected to impact the quality of his performance, but he isn't fortitudinally or physically worn out from years of highly testing professional combat. It's not like Chavez pulling out of a nasty firefight with Oscar, or Erik staying on his butt after being strafed and dropped in the Pacquiao rubber match. A fighter quitting is always excusable in the personal sense (they have lives to live), but Rigo's quit is pretty damning in terms of assessing his overall level of aptitude for professional fighting.

I've long been a cynic when it comes to Rigo, particularly. I got behind him for this fight because I thought it was warranted by the concessions he made in order to get the fight on, which I interpreted as indicative of a desire to lay it all on the line in a bid for glory. He ended up looking like a guy who was content enough to take a decent paypacket and go home. I could expect him to be way behind after 6 rounds, and I could expect him to fail in any concerted bid to turn things around, but the manner in which he went out is much less defensible.