I cannot stand the guy so probably biased here, but am I the only one who thinks his resume is overrated? Recently saw someone put him in their top 10 British P4P list. Below are his big fights Ward - schooled, lost UD Prime Kessler - lost, UD Dirrell - won, very contentious decision. I had Dirrell winning easily and can comfortable say Froch benefited from a hometown decision Taylor - good win, but Taylor was coming off the back of two losses to Pavlik the year before. Pascal - good win Abraham - good win Bute - good win Groves - robbery in fight 1, good win second time around. The point I'm trying to make is that he beat good fighters but got exposed by guys who are elite level. Would you say Froch was elite or world level?
Don't respond to the troll! Froch was a great fighter with a brilliant resume. Threadstarter is probablyTeam Khan. Khan is an absolute joke compared to Froch deal with it!
The most impressive thing about Froch's resume From Pascal in 2008 to Groves 2 in 2014, is the lack of cherry picks he had in that period. Yusaf mack as a 'mandatory' is about the only easy fight he had.
I see your hungry This is a non safe space are you sure your at the right place And froch is a legend road warrior like no other and groves never stood a chance in either fight in them championship rounds And as for schooled Froch took George to the gates but he would not go in without his dad So froch put him to sleep picked him up over his shoulder and sat him at the desk with the teachers apple and his pencil case in hand
I agree it was a tough batch of fights, but he lost 2 of those (Ward and Kessler) and should have lost to Dirrell. Kessler 2 is a good win on paper but Kessler was clearly shot by then. He done well to beat Taylor but let's be honest, it wasn't the same Taylor that beat Hopkins and also coming off 2 losses to Pavlik.
Ward - Lost to an ATG - competed but outclassed not shame in that Prime Kessler - lost a close decision in a war, the best thing that ever happened to Froch as he stopped trying to bano opponents with one shot. Dirrell - A horrible fight and one which it could be argued he lost - but the points deduction makes it close if you score with fight as Froch as the aggressor. Dirrell really should have kept his punch output up. Then it wouldn't have been a close decision at all. Taylor - A good win, but Taylor was coming off the back of two losses to Pavlik the year before and Froch's first step towards the elite against a proven top tier fighter Pascal - good win Abraham - good win. Froch was the first man to really beat AA Bute - good win Groves - robbery in fight 1, good win second time around. Robbery??? An early stoppe certainly but Groves was unraveling and had been wobbled a minute or so before. I've watched it a million times and while i dont agree with the stoppage, it was coming He also has useful wins over seasoned campaigners like Magee and Johnson. he was tipped to loose against bute and AA and hammered them both Froch only lost to Ward clearly. He was elite no doubt about it. When Ward took that huge layoff Froch was arguably the best SMW in the world. A year before Kessler decked Green and then beat Magee. Then he faces Carl, I think its fair Kessler slipped a beat especially after the Ward hammering but shot? No, i don't think so faded but still a decent win. Simelar to how I class Hatton V Kosta.
That and the fact that he didn't moan once about travelling. I think his willingness to fight anyone, anywhere was something we won't see in a homegrown fighter for a very long time. But people don't look deeper than that. His resume is decent, nothing more.
I think the answer is in the original post. Even in a comment designed to show him in a negative light, there are several "good win" comments. You could argue the first Kessler fight as well, it was very close and Froch was away and with the volcanic ash issue to contend with. It's not just that with Froch anyway, as has been said before it's his willingness to fight such an impressive list of fighters, in a row home or away. In fact if I remember rightly, Taylor tried to back out of the fight when team Froch win the purse bid - it happened because Froch said f- that then I'll kick your butt in your own backyard. If the original comment was meant to imply that people have listed him in an all time Britishness p4p top ten then I would agree that is probably a bit much.
He definitely lost to Dirrell - couldn't believe that decision. But I'm not convinced Kessler beat him in Denmark
dirrel ran and ran and ran all night and didnt back froch up once in the entire fight (did hughie fury learn his style from him?), cant believe the us fanboy salt mines are still working overtime on that one. esp because its dirrel, the guy humiliated himself with his dr showti...shaw high antics. its a shame because he could have been a talent with that speed, but he was unfortunately useless and didnt want to fight anyone.
Harder than a coffin nail and always gave his all. Enjoyed watching Froch. Out classed and out thought by Ward. Top fighter though.
I don't think he's over rated. He's rated very highly, but as others have pointed out, not quite as the creme de la creme. I would certainly still describe him as elite level, in terms of overall fighting prowess. Look, Carl Froch was effing hard to beat. Everyone knows about his granite chin and his world-class engine, but when he really concentrated he could box and set traps too. As others have said, Froch consistently fought the best, in many cases when the opponent was in their prime/considered a very dangerous fight. You have to give some weight to the context of his achievements when judging his resume. Dirrell was a world class fighter, the fact it was so competitive proves how hard Froch was to beat, even if you think he lost. You mention the loss to Kessler but he avenged it - in boxing history, avenging a bitter loss has always been the mark of a true champion (it's only really since Mayweather that every other journeyman is obsessed with trying to keep an 0). Taylor, you can't talk down that win. Froch went away from home in his very first world title defence. He had to get up from the canvas for the first time in his career. He was behind on the scorecards. He knocked him out with 14 seconds left in the fight. It takes something special inside to do that. Bute was rated by many as no.1 in the division at the time and undefeated - Froch dealt with him. Pascal was 21-0, undefeated, huge at the weight and a feared prospect - Froch dealt with him. Bottom line, I don't think Froch could have achieved what he achieved if he was non-elite. The very-good-but-not-great fighters can't take the type of risks Froch took and keep coming out on top. They get exposed. Do you see Eubank Jr taking these type of risks? But that's an argument for another day...
Froch was in a relatively tough era he would be the boss right now easily . But in his era he wasn't top boy ward was .
