Lomachenko's Win Over Riquitdeaux Is One of the GREATEST WINS of the Modern Era...

There is no “likely” here dumbass. Loma WAS 8-9lbs heavier than Rigo on fight night. In pretty much all of Loma’s fights he rehydrates to 137 or 138. What does Crawford rehydrate to?? He walks around at 180lbs. But you idiots are trying your best to push this “Loma picks on smaller guys, doe!” narrative. Your boy Rigo trolled to no end for this fight. He got more than he bargained for


Also... who was the one in the fight doing all the holding and grabbing?? Lol! Who was the one that attempted the elbow and low blows?? STFU

 

Surely you cannot possibly be that stupid.

Salido and Lomachenko do not fight anything alike.

But to answer your question, no--I do not believe weight was determinative in the Salido fight.

 

Rigo could have had the fight at 126lbs. You know it, and I know it. So kindly spare us both the revisionist claptrap.

Size allowed the larger man to cover more distance??? That's your counterpoint to my argument that speed, movement, and skill determined the outcome of the fight??? Geezus, man.

Lomachenko outweighed Rigo by 7-8lbs in the ring. Yes, Salido was indeed so weight drained that he missed weight and sported an 11lbs weight advantage on fight night.

The remainder of your post is sheer idiocy in digital form. I surely won't respond to your posts in future, and I trust you'll kindly reciprocate.

 

The line of argument was...

Tinman: "Fights and wins are evaluated in retrospect. Some wins are classics. They stand up to the test of time. "

Me: "Its way too early for a retrospective evaluation."

So yes, I stand by my point it's way too early to speculate how the future may evaluate this win.

But I don't view the fight that way. I saw Loma befuddle one of the best counter punchers in recent years into inactivity with feints and movement same as his previous opponents.

 

My argument was in opposition of Nonito Smoak's claim that this was not a fight between p4p rated fighters.

Before the fight was actually made...

Pimp C & Blizzy Blizz comes to mind as posters still around under their original handle on this forum.

In reality, there's already threads on several fighters, personalities, and experts going with a Rigo upset.

 

When people say a fighter is a general consensus top 10 they aren't speculating on how many posters in this crazy forum may or may not rate them.

 

Weight absolutely played a factor in the Loma-Salido fight, and Salido absolutely took advantage of it. He completely blew off the weight limit and knew he had to badly stack the deck in his favor to have a chance. Nothing wrong with that, it's admirable to me actually. I think it was a big learning lesson for Lomachenko, and I think on the inside he is 100% a TRUE DOG and ain't getting one pulled over on him again like that.

To say weight or size didn't play a factor in the Loma-Rigo fight is ridiculous too. Of course it did, but Loma didn't go out and steamroll Rigo -he was the first person to ever show up to the chessboard against Rigo and leave him totally befuddled. The dude straight up got pantsed and out skilled and maneuvered, and the fact that Loma was bigger and faster made it all the more terrifying and befuddling to Rigo. "Check-****ing-mate" - Loma

Yea, Loma was the noticeably bigger fighter, but the reason this was such a great win was because the two p4p'ers went at it and the bigger guy completely outclassed the smaller guy in the skill, speed, talent, ability -just every friggin category. I'll say this, against a guy Rigo's own size, I don't see Rigo kicking it in like he did.

I've been in the ring with someone bigger than me AND faster than me AND more skilled than me. I can't even begin to describe how terrifying that is and the feeling of total helplessness it gives you. When someone is BIGGER and FASTER than you, even if they aren't known as a KO bomber, every shot rattles you to the core - even the ones you block.

 

Greatest win ever if you put like 5 qualifiers on it.

Get out of here. Loma made an older fighter coming up 2 weight classes.

Same posters giving Loma credit are the same discounting Floyd's win over Marquez.. which was less of a size mismatch than this fight.

 

Fair enough

 

Rigo refused the fight at 126, so Lomachenko went up to 130.....................Rigo wanted the fight, Lomachenko did not, but Danny Garcia and Angel Garcia along with Dontae's boxing YouTube gave Lomachenko not chance, not to mention so many others. They said that Rigo was too fast for Lomachenko would easily knock Lomachenko out, out boxing him, etc., but that did not happen, the hand was not broken, hell, he didn't land a left hand! Yes, it was a great win for Lomachenko, but Lomachenko does not think so................

 

How stupid can you be. A guy that weighs 137 and change at 9AM will have gained several more pounds by fight time at 10:00PM. What a moron.

 

If you think that fight was breathtaking then I'll bet watching paint dry is a real heart stopper for you. lol

 

If true that Rigo only got 400K for the fight, then I don't disagree with you on that, because that was the initial offer for the fight to happen at 126, according to a video interview with Loma and his manager from a long time ago. Rigo must have some geniuses in his braintrust.

Ever watched Usain Bolt. Similar principle. You can have two athletes similar in athleticism and quickness, but if one is a bit bigger than the other, that size allows him an advantage, he covers a tad more distance. What you are trying to argue is akin to saying Wladimir Klitschos jab would be just as effective against heavyweights if he was only 6'0 tall, and that isn't true.

Lomachenko outweighed Rigo by probably 10-12 pounds in the ring at least. Loma weighed 137 and change in the morning. 13 hours later by fight time he gained a few more pounds. Rigondeaux did the morning weigh in fully clothed, and weighed 130, meaning he was still the 128 and change he weighed in the previous night. Salido was having a hard weight cut. The fact that he couldn't make weight, suggests his body was under abnormal strain. It showed in the fight, the way he gassed late. Loma lost to a fat unfit shopworn Mexican warhorse.

Well Whoopty doo.

 

I guess I didn't see their posts since I have both of them blocked as trolls. Somebody posted a list of 40 posters on this board who were picking Rigo to win and the only one I think of as a serious poster is Akbar. The rest looked like secondary accounts by trolls and inexperienced novices. But I'll give you that we have an inordinate amount of trolls on this board, and they can sometimes seem like the majority.

 

You’re beyond an idiot trying to blame a slight weight advantage on your **** talking hero’s loss. And Loma agreed AND made the rehydration limit your boy Rigo asked for.

How about you find clips in the fight where Lomachenko used this MASSIVE size advantage that you claim and time stamp them all. Then I’ll find all the clips of Loma using superior skill and speed. And I will do a ban bet with your stupid ass that the clips of Vasyl beating Rigoturd with skill/speed will greatly outnumber the low number of clips you find

And who was deducted a point and commited all the fouls again?? NOT the BIG BULLY Loma. Lol

STFU and take the L. Your hero Rigo has