Daniel Óscar García vs. Brandon Lee Ríos

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jan 2, 2018.

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Swift or Bam-Bam?

Poll closed Feb 17, 2018.
  1. García on points

    52.4%
  2. García by stoppage

    42.9%
  3. Draw

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    0.0%
  4. Ríos on points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Ríos by stoppage

    4.8%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    February 17th on Showtime, and just today upgraded by the WBC to a final welterweight title eliminator. That means the victor gets first crack @...well, somebody, once the Keith Thurman/Jessie Vargas/Shawn Porter dust settles later this year.

    In the co-feature slot will be Victor Ortiz vs. Devon Alexander. As most know, there is a long-standing feud between Ortiz and Ríos, so at first superficial glance this card might seem poised to whet appetites for a grudge match at last - but that would be contingent on both winning, and in Ríos' case it would be hard to imagine him throwing a guaranteed title shot away (likely his last ever) even for a chance to settle his old score. This would, in turn, free Ortiz up (should he beat fellow washed-up southpaw former champ-who-primed-six-years-ago Devon Alexander) to pursue a verbal challenge issued and duly accepted on social media for a match with Héctor Camacho Jr. (ikr? So random!!!) ...so at least we know we have some flavor of hot mess to look forward to in 2018 no matter how this all shakes out.
     
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  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    2 iron mandibled fighters going at it. DSG will stop him though, however.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Odds haven't been published yet but I have to imagine Danny will open as the comfortable favorite.

    The co-feature, meanwhile, could go even money.
     
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  4. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Full names doe? Damn. Garcia on points because he's "Gift" Garcia and Puerto Rico will be mentioned about 100 times before the fight with a dedication.
     
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  5. MVC!

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    Danny will at LEAST be a 4-1 favourite, if not 5-1.

    I think it'll lead to a UD though, even though Tim did stop Rios, don't think Garcia does that. That was an aberration
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It would not shock me to see Rios pull out a win here, Danny has been off for almost a year, has looked pretty ****ing average since the Matthysse fight, and if Guerrero is to be believed, and he should be, Thurman's jabs are harder than Danny's power shots. Its not out of the question that Rios doesn't outwork Danny to a 87-5ish SD here.

    Ortiz should b able to beat Alexander, but he should have beaten Berto the second time and Collazo, so I'm not getting my hopes up, even though I'd love to see Vicious Vic KO that googly eyed dork Devon cold.
     
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  7. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what a joke for a title eliminator. Garcia should be fighting someone on the rise to be considered for another shot and Rios should be retired before his brain gets any more damaged, which is a feat in itself.
     
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  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    This is a sick fight! Should not happen. Danny Garcia is sick like his idiot father Angel!
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

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    Garcia will find it too easy to hit Rios and not worry about it coming back. If Rios makes him wilt and swarms him, Danny will have truly regressed something fierce.

    Big fan of Ortiz vs. Alexander.

    As far as Rios vs. Ortiz being contingent on them both winning... well I think it's contingent on them both losing.
     
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    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What happened to rios be dedicated and dropping weight welter cant be the lowest is can get he can at least make light welter and Garcia is pathetic for taking this fight lol he probably wanted the Ortiz fight
     
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  11. SnatchBox

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    It should be Garcia-Alexander, Ortiz-Rios. Don't know what Haymon is thinking
     
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    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    No way in Hell should this be a title eliminator. But whatever, it could be a pretty fun fight but I can't look past a routine win for DSG
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I thought Porter was already the mandatory. And now they have a second one?
    The WBC mandatory positioning at 147 have been a cluster****. And the last one was actually in 2013.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Agreed, even though you have pros and cons with this configuration.

    Danny vs. Devon is the only meaningful one, in terms of somebody going on to be remotely competitive with Thurman/Vargas/Porter. It also, however, could be the most boring match of all time.

    Victor and Brandon have years of animosity built up and will go all out and put on a fireworks display that will be fun while it lasts, but ultimately it will mean nothing. They're both so past their primes and used-up and irrelevant by now, it won't affect either one's legacy that much in the grand scheme and NEITHER of these guys is going on to come within spitting distance of beating Thurman/Vargas/Porter, no chance in hell.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Here's the deal:

    Porter fought in a "final eliminator" last year, making him the mandatory and next in line for a crack at the WBA title. In the meantime, Thurman still had one voluntary defense left before his next mandatory was due to be enforced. So, enter Vargas. That's his voluntary. After they've fought, whoever is champ HAS to face Porter next, immediately, no if's and's or but's.

    Then after THAT, whoever is champ at that point (Thurman/Vargas/Porter) will HAVE to face the new mandatory, determined in the García vs. Ríos final eliminator.

    So yes Porter is the mando, and yes this will be to determine a mando, but that isn't as contradictory as it sounds. Think of it like a queue of mandatories.