"Fighter A ran all night!" - 1st off, he probably didn't; 2nd, even if he did, it doesn't mean B won

Outboxing is a beautiful style, it's art no doubt.

 

I don't agree because Lara didn't stand his ground at all.. Canelo could have stopped and Lara would still move back out of his own range.. It seemed he wouldn't engage at all unless Canelo got too close so he threw a punch and moved again.. Outboxing is what Floyd did.. Moved left and right, slipped, and fought on the back foot.. Lara just went back as far as I remember.. Might have to watch it again...

 

PW moved up from 147 because no one would fight him. This was post-Martinez II.

 

BCS8's scoring of Canelo Golovkin is rooted in the "coming forward bonus" mentality. That's why every round that Canelo is seen fighting off the backfoot he doesn't even want to discuss the punches landed in the round because since Golovkin was coming forward most of the round Golovkin wins the round. That's why he doesn't give Canelo the 6th round like you did IB or even consider other rounds where Canelo was fighting off the backfoot the entire round but still scoring.

In BCS8's mind, all Golovkin has to do in the rematch is continue to walk forward the entire round, and as long as it's relatively close he'll score every round to Golovkin via the "coming forward bonus" lol.

 

He got beaten up in every aspect, he got beaten inside out that fight. Yves just disgraced him.

 

1) Pretty sure that's Schlongmaster
2) My eyes!
3) My ears!

 

Fixed it.

 

Your preaching some truth, the key words are effective aggression if you are not scoring clean punches with your come forward style I ain’t gunna give you the point just because you came forward.

 

Uh huh, anotherwords you base your scoring on compubox numbers, when we can see how off those numbers are. I counted Canelo's jabs in round 8 and saw clear as day he landed considerably more jabs than 1 lol. You just admitted all things equal you give the nod to the come forward fighter, don't try to backtrack now.

 

Things aren't equal.

Golovkin landed virtually the same amount of power punches as Canelo and a shedload more jabs.

In other words, he won.

 

You absolutely should get a bonus for being aggressive. Without a fighter going first, there's no fight. That's why I respect guys like Tyson and Pac more than others, they make fights happen. Others sit back and wait, they just react.

 

Let's say we all agree with this.

1) How do we know who's punches are more effective? Clearly if the same amount of punches are landed but the one guy is being moved and is unable to stand his ground, it points to his being less effective than the other fighter.
2) It's a fight! Seems to me that this trend of discouraging violence in boxing is leading us down the road of huggery and posery in the ring and it will inevitably end up in a gender issues workgroup where everybody holds hands, drinks pink lemonade and confesses their micro-aggressions to each other while filling up their snotrags.

I live in dread of point 2) becoming reality.

 

lol you're proving my point exactly : you scored the fight based on the compubox numbers. I showed in round 8 just how off the jabs landed numbers were. They gave Canelo credit for 1 landed jab, when in actuality Canelo landed 7-13 jabs. (7 clear jabs to the head and 13 in total if you include the borderline stuff) If you look at the compubox jab numbers round by round, they were very even for the first 7 rounds. (particularly rounds 2-7) Then you see a huge dropoff in jabs landed by Canelo. The 8th round drop off was pure fantasy, how can you base your view of who won on that?